Pro-Life? Adopt a kid!!!

FoxHastings said: ↑
She isn't.....in the US we support children if their parents can't or won't.

We don't deny those PRECIOUS LIVES food and care because of what their parents may have done....don't you CARE for BORN children?????

Yup, nothin's FREE like Repubs and righties want it to be!


Have to be responsible in this country and pay for what you get....did you think only YOU pay for your kid's education? For the roads and parks and sidewalks and museums and public buildings, military, water system , police, fire fighters, etc... that they use ? Just YOU?????




Now can you address my post you quoted :
.....in the US we support children if their parents can't or won't.

We don't deny those PRECIOUS LIVES food and care because of what their parents may have done....don't you CARE for BORN children?????




Maybe YOU could be the FIRST Anti-Choicer to explain why the ONLY "precious life" is fetuses?

 

No DUH, it does not make them responsible BUT:

If they push to ban abortion FORCING women to give birth because they believe ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS then they should treat all life as PRECIOUS....and take care of those precious lives who have no home and no parents...


BUT, do not worry about any righty Anti-Choicer EVER having to be responsible for those "precious lives" once they're born...they don't care once they can't control women with it..

 

Why do Righties want everything for free ?

 

I thought conservatives were all about govt staying out of peoples' lives?

 

Why should Pro-Choicers open their homes? They are NOT the ones yelling, "Every life is precious".

How about the fact that no "child" is "murdered" in abortion.


How about no one should be forced to put drugs or foreign objects in their bodies (birth control).

How about the fact that BC can fail.

How about all that doesn't matter because pregnant women should have the same rights as everyone else?

And this one, how about if you call all life precious you shouldn't be so selective on which life you feel is precious or not...



...and your comparison of what those caged children went through compared to the quick painless death of a fetus , something that never existed as a person, is appalling...

 

Not if they can control and punish women for having sex and getting pregnant.

 

And NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS......

 

Please tell me why, in regards to abortion, what a woman chooses to do is anyone else's business?

 

Here is a crazy concept. You get knocked up... you are responsible.

We don't base our legal system, nor our collective morality on responsibility. Meaning, just because others don't want the responsibility of your child doesn't mean you have the right to kill it.

If somebody's 2 year old was inconvenient to their current situation, and they desired to terminate the kids life, your perspective here is that nobody can oppose that murder unless they are willing to take the child.

That is a ridiculous position and completely illogical.

 

Example?

 

Maybe because that is another person's life that she is making decisions for that has no say in the matter?

 

1) Those "poor mothers" have to want to give up their kids or, if they are unfit crack whores, must first have their children taken away. Are you saying those mothers are willing to give up their children or are all crack whores?

2) I fully support legal, cheap (i.e. at cost) abortion on demand along with thorough sex education in public schools and cheap, effective contraceptives. Since most abortions are by liberals, it's a win-win for Americans!

3) I support limiting welfare funds to mothers based upon how many children they have. Set an amount based on one child and not raise it if they have more. #2 above should be emphasized here.

 

But how is that someone else's business? It's HER body.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
No DUH, it does not make them responsible BUT:

If they push to ban abortion FORCING women to give birth because they believe ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS then they should treat all life as PRECIOUS....and take care of those precious lives who have no home and no parents...


BUT, do not worry about any righty Anti-Choicer EVER having to be responsible for those "precious lives" once they're born...they don't care once they can't control women with it..

So WHY are Anti-Choicers trying to take away that responsibility?????????

You are correct, rights are NOT based on whether a person acted responsibly or not.

No it means if one doesn't want the responsibility of a child they have the right to abort their FETUS.

You really need to "misrepresent" what I said to have a point?

I am sorry if you can't tell the difference between a 12 week fetus and a BORN child who has rights but that is so far off I don't think anyone could explain it to you.

Yes, it IS illogical to equate a born child who has rights to a 12 week fetus, makes no sense at all.

 

Uh, duh, they do NOT want to contribute to this country through taxes.....they ENJOY everything their taxes provide but HATE having to contribute.


That's why I think it's funny that righties claim liberals want everything for free...

 

There is NO other "person" involved....and even if a fetus was ever deemed a person they still have no say as long as they are attached to and need that woman's body to survive. It is STILL her body, not yours, not the fetus's and certainly not the governments (which is what Anti-Choicers want, Bigger Government control over pregnant women but not over themselves)

 

"""""""""I support limiting welfare funds to mothers based upon how many children they have. Set an amount based on one child and not raise it if they have more""""

YUPPERS! Those "precious lives" are only "precious" to righties as long as they aren't inconvenienced....and to hell with the second kid, they can just eat the left overs from the first "precious life", share the scraps like dogs just so righties can delight in punishing the woman for having kids...

 

LOL. The only people who see me as a "rightie" are the far lefties.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""""""I support limiting welfare funds to mothers based upon how many children they have. Set an amount based on one child and not raise it if they have more""""

YUPPERS! Those "precious lives" are only "precious" to righties as long as they aren't inconvenienced....and to hell with the second kid, they can just eat the left overs from the first "precious life", share the scraps like dogs just so righties can delight in punishing the woman for having kids...

Gee, good way to sidestep the contents of the post of mine you quoted which STILL applies to what YOU posted.

 

Everyone who is part of the society has an obligation to that society

 

Yes, but righties do NOT want THAT responsibility....

 

Because we as a society have right to institute morality for the collective. Its why we don't allow murder.

You are claiming that in a murder situation, because we aren't the one being murdered, we should have no say.

To be clear, I am pro-choice, but I understand WHY people oppose abortion.

 

That is complete false.

Holding an extremist perspective and painting people in a black or white fashion, whether than grey, does absolutely nothing to advance the debate.

Conservatives support taxation to fund the shared expenses of the country. Roads. Military. Government. What conservatives don't support, are programs that are institute that benefit a few at the cost of the majority. That is, vote buying schemes.

If you are interested in actually understand financial conservatives perspectives, I am happy to debate them with you. If you goal is just to project at people, stereotype, and hold extremist views with no desire to attempt to understand opposing views... then its not worth the effort.

 

I disagree that isn't a person... or a life. The fact that it is dependent on another body, doesn't remove that life's rights to not be murdered?

Children are not capable of survival without parents. Does that mean that those parents can change their mind?

 

At what capacity?

No limits? You live in society, so society can take anything of yours that they want for the benefit of that society? The minority wealthy are subject to the whims and demands of the majority for the benefit of society?