She wanted all women, even racists, to learn about birth control? Good idea. In a 1945 interview published in the Chicago Defender, Margaret Sanger said: Discrimination is a world-wide thing. It has to be opposed everywhere. That is why I feel the Negros plight here is linked with that of the oppressed around the globe. The big answer, as I see it, is the education of the white man. The white man is the problem. It is the same as with the Nazis. We must change the white attitudes. That is where it lies. Are those the words of a racist? From Politifact: "But we found no evidence that Sanger advocated privately or publicly for anything even resembling the genocide of blacks, or that she thought blacks are genetically inferior."
No pal, my work here remains unfinished. When I have time I will return to address the vicious racism of Margaret Sanger and the cult she spawned. See you soon.
Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist besides being a racist. She may very well have talked about the use of negative eugenics to reduce the size of the population of the poor and unfit in their community. Do it. Why did Margaret Sanger use the term "racial chaos" and what did she mean by it? Planned Parenthood acknowledges Margaret Sanger may have been a racist. "The patriarchal racism of the social policy of the time and the well-intentioned paternalism of philanthropists to lift up AfricanAmericans, may have influenced Sanger." http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/8013/9611/6937/Opposition_Claims_About_Margaret_Sanger.pdf Racism with good intentions is nevertheless racism. Politifact is a leftist, pro-choice organization that can't be seen as unbiased. I reject it as an impartial source.
Look up the wiki article on Margaret Sanger. You "assume?" Link please. - - - Updated - - - She didn't retain a text of the speech to the KKK. Sort of like Hillary Clinton and emails or Nixon and the erased 18 minutes of tape.
You: """Planned Parenthood acknowledges Margaret Sanger may have been a racist. "The patriarchal racism of the social policy of the time and the well-intentioned paternalism of philanthropists to “lift up” AfricanAmericans, may have influenced Sanger."""" HOW did it influence Sanger? Did she become a racist? No. Why won't you accept the challenge in the Debate and Contest Forum?
Your assertion, onus on you to provide the evidence to support it .. so link please. No assumption required, it is there in black and white - Sanger was aware of the dangers of the Nazi eugenics program well before the end of World War II and in 1934 answered Sidney Lasells specific question: What are your views on the German program of sterilizing the unfit? My views on the German program of sterilizing the unfit: I admire the courage of a government that takes a stand on sterilization of the unfit and second, my admiration is subject to the interpretation of the word unfit. If by unfit is meant the physical or mental defects of a human being, that is an admirable gesture, but if unfit refers to races or religions, then that is another matter which I frankly deplore. - Sanger to Sidney Lasell, Feb. 13, 1934, Selected Papers, Vol. 2, p. 278. Here are a few more quotes where is it plain to see that Sanger was not racist. "Discrimination is a world-wide thing. It has to be opposed everywhere. That is why I feel the Negros plight here is linked with that of the oppressed around the globe. The big answer, as I see it, is the education of the white man. The white man is the problem. It is the same as with the Nazis. We must change the white attitudes. That is where it lies. .. Knowing our own problem, it gave me greater sympathy with the others, with what I saw in the Orient. I can recall many horrible things I saw in India. I once saw a white man come out of a train; there were five or six Indians in his way; he just kicked them awayliterally, with his foot. There were a hundred people around, who were powerless to strike him. The white mans power and the Indians defenselessness were so unjust. "I remember addressing a colored church group once. I was staying with a white doctor at the time. They didnt let a Negro doctor introduce me to the people. The white doctor had to do it. That was in Memphis. What hangs over the South is that the Negro has been in servitude. The white southerner is slow to forget this. His attitude is the archaic in this age. Supremacist thinking belongs in the museum." Source - http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/w...Doc=320145.xml Ergo you are making assumptions you have not a shred of evidence for simply to bolster your confirmation bias.
Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist, she was not a racist. Her "vision" of Eugenics included all races. All races, not specific to a single race. we have come to the conclusion, based on widespread investigation and experience, that this education for parenthood and of parenthood must be based upon the needs and demands of the people themselves. An idealistic code of sexual ethics, imposed from above, a set of rules devised by high-minded theorists who fail to take into account the living conditions and desires of the submerged masses, can never be of the slightest value in effecting any changes in the mores of the people. Such systems have in the past revealed their woeful inability to prevent the sexual and racial chaos into which the world has today drifted. Please DO point out any reference to a specific race. Use a dictionary and educate yourself on what the word "may" means. Except of course you have failed totally to provide any credible evidence that Sanger targeted a specific group add to this that you wilfully ignore anything that disagrees with your opinion and it is plain to see you are only interested in using things that adhere to your preconceived opinion ie confirmation bias.
But the hammer of eugenics would not fall on all races equally. There would be disparate impact on the inferior and unfit. Unfit included the poor. Margaret Sanger's era saw African Americans as inferior. They were the targets for negative eugenics. Other races were going to experience positive eugenics in a Social Darwinist context. Disparate Impact. What did that racist hound Sanger mean by her reference to "Racial Chaos.?" It means that Planned Parenthood acknowledges Margaret Sanger may have been a racist.
"Birth Control or Race Control? Sanger and the Negro Project". Margaret Sanger Papers Project Newsletter (Margaret Sanger Papers Project) (twenty-eight). 2002-11-14. Retrieved 2009-01-25.
Rigged game on a leftist site with judges composed of leftists. This thread is where the discussion will remain.
That does not equate to your assertion that Sanger was a racist. A racist is "a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another" .. show where Sanger stated or implied that she believed one race was superior to another? Do you even know the poverty rate of African-Americans in 1939 compared to other races? That does not mean she did, what you are attempting to do is create a guilt by association fallacy .. and failing. Again, this does not equate to your assertion that Sanger was racist. Racial Chaos simply refers to all races, there is nothing in "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda" from which I quoted that alludes or implies a single race. to assert otherwise is simply pandering to your own confirmation bias. they do not say it did influence her, they said it may have influenced her, you are just making the assumption it did. May - Expressing possibility: - a possibility is not an absolute. You are also ignoring the final sentence of that PP statement - "But there is no evidence that Sanger, or the Federation, intended to coerce black women into using birth control"
Rigged game No judges have been decided upon as yet, or are you suggesting that ALL the MOD's etc here are leftists? Tell you what YOU decide on the judges.
That is not a link .. so link please. Furthermore your first "link" says nothing about your assertion, in fact is supports me - "What it became was not the project Sanger had first envisioned. As she wrote in an initial fund-raising request to Albert Lasker, the wealthy advertising executive just beginning his post-business career in medical philanthropy, she simply hoped to help "a group notoriously underprivileged and handicapped to a large measure by a ‘caste' system that operates as an added weight upon their efforts to get a fair share of the better things in life." "However, once funding was secured, the project slipped from Sanger's hands. " "In the end, Sanger's plan for an educational campaign to precede the demonstration project lost out to the white medical and public relations men running the new Federation. They were particularly swayed by Robert Seibels (1890-1955), chairman of the Committee on Maternal Welfare of the South Carolina Medical Association, who was chosen by the BCFA to direct a Negro demonstration project in that state. Seibels distrusted Sanger and her loyal crew of field workers, calling them "dried-up female fanatics" who had the gall to tell doctors what to do. Robert E. Seibels to Frederick C. Holden, Jan. 28, 1939, Sophia Smith Collection, Records of PPFA.)" so thank you for helping disprove your own opinion.
I gave you a citation. Now look it up you putative expert. - - - Updated - - - This is our venue dear. Learn it, Love it, Live it.
Margaret Sanger founded the Birth Control League and had admitted racists on her board. Margaret Sanger was founded and publisher of the Birth Control Review and published articles by a series of noted racists.
Your assertion onus on you to provide the evidence and links to support it. BTW where I have ever claimed to be a expert on Sanger? I see you ignored the fact that your first "link" fully disagrees with your assertions. no problem, I am more than happy to shatter your confirmation bias, misrepresentation and out of context hyperbole.
no you prove it is directed at African-Americans, that is your assertion so you prove it, as I have asked you many, many times before and yet I am still waiting, and your cherry picking of comments only shows your own dishonesty. so again Please DO point out any reference to a specific race.
Guilt by association fallacy - Description: When the source is viewed negatively because of its association with another person or group who is already viewed negatively. - http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/12-ad-hominem-guilt-by-association Making the assumption that Sanger was racist simply because there were admitted racists on the board of the Birth Control League is fallacious, in order to make the claim true you first have to prove that Sanger was racist and in that you have failed totally. Guilt by association fallacy - Description: When the source is viewed negatively because of its association with another person or group who is already viewed negatively. - http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/12-ad-hominem-guilt-by-association Making the assumption that Sanger was a racist simply because, as one of the editors of the Birth Control Review, she published articles by a series of noted racists is fallacious, in order to make the claim true you first have to prove that Sanger was racist and in that you have failed totally.
Margaret Sanger used negative eugenics for the purpose of reducing the population of people with undesirable characteristics. Those undesirables, in Sanger's opinion, included the ignorant, poor, superstitious, those who caused racial chaos, or who didn't fit the profile of her vision of a new and improved race. Margaret Sanger founded the Birth Control Review and placed known racists on her board. Sanger consorted with racist supporters. Her eugenic policies fell most harshly on the African American population. Sanger's racial approach to genetics served as the model for the National Socialists of Germany. Today Margaret Sanger serves as the subject of a quasi-religious cult who worship her. Many African Americans recognize Margaret Sanger for the racist eugenicist she was including, but not limited to, Professor Emerita Angela Davis of the University of California, Dr. Benjamin Carson, and the Ministers who penned this letter: August 7, 2015 Ms. Kim Sajet, Director The National Portrait Gallery Smithsonian Institution PO Box 37012 Victor Building, Suite 4100, MRC 973 Washington, DC 20013-7012 Dear Ms. Sajet, We are writing to ask that Margaret Sanger’s likeness be removed from all National Portrait Gallery exhibits. Her bust should not be part of the Gallery’s “Struggle for Justice” exhibit, which honors "great achievements...striking down long-standing segregationist practices and discrimination in American society.” Ms. Sanger may have been a lot of things, but a “champion of justice” she definitely was not. Perhaps the Gallery is unaware that Ms. Sanger supported black eugenics, a racist attitude toward black and other minority babies; an elitist attitude toward those she regarded as “the feeble minded;" speaking at rallies of Ku Klux Klan women; and communications with Hitler sympathizers. Also, the notorious “Negro Project” which sought to limit, if not eliminate, black births, was her brainchild. Despite these well documented facts of history, her bust sits proudly in your gallery as a hero of justice. The obvious incongruity is staggering! Perhaps your institution is a victim of propaganda advanced by those who support abortion. Nevertheless, a prestigious institution like the National Portrait Gallery should have higher standards and subject its honorees to higher scrutiny. Until now the national spotlight has not fallen on Sanger's background. However, the recent revelations about aborted babies’ organs and body parts being sold, have not only brought Planned Parenthood under intense scrutiny, but also raised questions about its founder, Margaret Sanger. If the revelations were not consistent with her character and ideas, one might argue that Planned Parenthood has “gone rogue” and abandoned Sanger. The fact is that the behavior of these abortionists, their callous and cavalier attitude toward these babies, is completely in keeping with Sanger’s perverse vision for America. Ms. Kim Sajet, Director - 2 August 7, 2015 Like Hitler, Sanger advocated eugenics—the extermination of people she deemed “undesirables." Finding that the American people rejected that idea, she then switched to birth control as a way of controlling the population growth of black people and others. The name "Planned Parenthood" was chosen for its obvious marketability. Who wouldn't want to "plan" for children? The reality is that 90% of the organization's income comes from the deaths of unborn children. Ironically, Sanger’s bust is featured in the NPG’s “Struggle for Justice” exhibit, alongside two of America’s most celebrated and authentic champions of equal rights - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and Rosa Parks. If Sanger had her way, MLK and Rosa Parks would not have been born. In a letter to a Dr. C. J. Gamble on December 10, 1939 regarding implementation of the Negro Project, Sanger wrote, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” How can a person like Sanger, who found common cause with the racial agenda of the Ku Klux Klan (“KKK”, be ranked among true champions of “justice?” She was a purveyor of grave injustice against the most vulnerable. Planned Parenthood continues to suppress the growth of minority populations by locating 70% of its abortion facilities within in or near black and Latino communities. The Life Issues Institute has an interactive map showing this at: http://www.protectingblacklife.org/pp_targets. This explains why elective abortion remains the number one cause of death among black Americans, higher than all other causes combined. We will not remain silent while the National Portrait Gallery venerates someone who sought to eradicate our very existence. Ms. Sanger was a racist, elitist, and her beliefs led to massive destruction of unborn human life. She was no hero. This letter is the first in a series of actions MINISTERS TAKING A STAND (“MTS” will be taking to expose the evil of Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood. We demand that all images, statues, busts and likenesses, of any kind, of Margaret Sanger, be removed. Notwithstanding the fact that many of us are black, we are a national organization of pastors from various races and backgrounds, and we stand together in opposition to the racist and genocidal legacy of Margaret Sanger. We look forward to your response. Sincerely, Bishop E.W. Jackson MTS Founder & President Bishop, THE CALLED Church Pastor Cecil Blye, Jr., MTS President, KENTUCKY Senior Pastor, More Grace Ministries Ms. Kim Sajet, Director - 3 August 7, 2015 Pastor Iverson Jackson MTS State President, ARKANSAS Senior Pastor, Zoe Bible Church Dr. Melvin Johnson MTS State President, TEXAS Senior Pastor, Heart of Christ Community Church Apostle Stanley Jacobs MTS State President, DELAWARE Senior Pastor Greater Works Ministries Rev. Steven L. Craft MTS State President NEW YORK/NEW JERSEY Executive Director, Christian Citizenship Ministries Dr. Leon Threatt MTS President, NORTH CAROLINA Senior Pastor, Joy Christian Fellowship Pastor Garfield Williams MTS State President, MARYLAND Senior Pastor, Kingdom Equippers Ministries Pastor Marlin Sharp MTS President, TIDEWATER VIRGINIA Senior Pastor, Landstown Community Church Pastor Michael Smith MTS President, SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA Senior Pastor, Mountain View Union Church
Sanger founded Nazism and created Hitle?. What a joke. Name ONE person who "worships" her. Anyone. You hate legalized contraceptives and "worship" the Pope. Just admit it. The Catholic Church, which IS a religious cult, hates her for her leading to legalizing contraceptives. That's the fact. No matter how many times you falsely post she advocated abortion, it is 100% deliberately false by you as she openly opposed abortions as one reason she supported legalizing contraceptives. There is no integrity of your messages for that reason.
Margaret Sanger had some interesting views. Here's what she said about masturbation: "In my personal experience as a trained nurse while attending persons afflicted with various and often revolting diseases, no matter what their ailments, I never found any one so repulsive as the chronic masturbator. It would not be difficult to fill page upon page of heart-rending confessions made by young girls, whose lives were blighted by this pernicious habit, always begun so innocently." Margaret Sanger, "What Every Girl Should Know: Sexual Impulse - Part I", December 22, 1912.
