Protesters Caught Burning Aid Truck, Pompeo Blames Maduro

Those countries know damn well the reason they're footing the bill is because of American sanctions, but they can't get furious with the US, so they're blaming Maduro for not bowing and selling his country to Washington.

What the US might do, is get the Brazilians and Columbians to fight their battle - which might not be bad if they could get just the criminal gangs on both sides to kill one another off. Of course Brazil and Columbia will be armed by the US, and Venezuela in turn will be armed by Russia and China. This is what I meant when I said it will be at best like Syria, and at worse like the Vietnam war.

I did read though that there are American troops massed now in Puerto Rico and other places. Brazil said it will not allow American troops on its land. Smart! Once they come they never leave.

 

Russia has no choice but to defend sovereign nations like Venezuela from regime changes. They're not stupid, they know Washington only attacks nations that are allied with Russia - which means the attacks are really meant to hurt them.

 

You mean the sanction that were only effective from a few week ago?
Chavez/Maduro ****ed it up, nobody else.

Both Columbia and Brazil don't need US support to dispose of Maduro. They both have bigger and better armed forces, especially the Columbian who have quite extensive military experience.

 

Brazil:
Active personnel: 318,450(2014) (ranked 14th)
Reserve personnel: 1,340,000 (2014) (ranked 5th)

Columbia:
Active personnel 470, 634

Venezuela: 350,000 active personnel.

Yeah, I don't see this going well for venezuela, especially if her allies have to sail accross the world to support her.

 

And Venezuela would be fighting on two fronts...

 

Sanctions have been imposed on Venezuela each year from at least 2015, and probably further back than that. I'm just not willing to look for them. I know under Chavez it was illegal to buy oil from Venezuela. The video below is from 2017.

As for military experience, there's a big difference in the morale of those defending their country from an invader, and those who are doing the invading. What the US will probably do is support foreign criminals to fight in Venezuela like they did the terrorists in Syria. Maybe they'll even have false flag terrorist attack as an excuse to bomb and destroy infrastructure.

No matter, anything we do is criminal and against international law.

 

He does love his people to death.

 

Nope. Those sanctions were against INDIVIDUALS, not Venezuela. The sanctions against the country as a whole are only effective since a couple of weeks ago.

And no there isn't any difference in 2019, not when trying to wage a war on two front with a nonexistant economy and industrial base. There's a difference in fighting in war and shooting protestor in the back like Maduro home boy did.

And no it isn't illegal to wage war when your neighbor is dumping thousands of refugee on you. The UN sanctionned many wars when that happened.

But then again why should I waste my time on you. Your schtick is so passé.

 

Of course mercenaries count as combatants. They always have been.

Has Blackwater captured any territory, ports, naval bases for the USG?

 

We need China in the mix.

Imagine Latin America with a little Russia and a little China
and not just Cuba opposing foreign entanglements.

From the get go there was no doubt in Moi's mind that the
troubles of Venezuela are orchestrated by
Orchestrated via the international banking system making war on Venezuela.
Sanctions too.
Can we agree such banking maneuvers and sanctions are acts or war?


Moi

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Of course oil companies are interested in handling Venezuelan oil. But that is private business, not government. Government isn't interested in the oil. It is interested in Russia, Iran and showing the world how nice we are to fix failing governments. If Russia weren't there, we wouldn't be there in my opinion.

 

Does Russia have a military alliance with VZ?

 

The American sanctions are against the economy of Venezuela, not individuals but you know that - or at least you should. You're confusing Venezuela with Russia. You should read up a little more before writing. The millionaires all left with Chavez, except for the ones he made like his General - and they certainly weren't going to desert him.

There are no wealthy individuals with the power to overthrow Maduro, the ones you're thinking of are in Miami goading Rubio so he can act like an idiot.

 

I don't know, but I recall Russia saying that it will not allow regime change, or something to that affect. I read that Russia was going to build a base on an island off Venezuela to protect them. Maybe that's why Washington had this sudden rush to demonize Maduro and start a war.

Since then nothing has been said, but I'm sure there's a lot going on in the background that we don't know about. China in the meantime has tens of billions of dollars invested there, and planned on using Venezuela for it's commerce, so they have a lot to lose. This might be why Maduro said that Venezuela will become another Vietnam.

 

Then again if Washington wasn't sanctioning and threatening Venezuela, Maduro wouldn't need Russia, so whose to blame?

 

Hmm... Yeh, Crimea went really well, lol...

 

The Red Cross was not with the protesters. They stole the emblem and pretended they were with them. It was a publicity stunt, this is why the UN complained. From what I gathered in Syria, the Red Cross and Red Crescent works with the UN to deliver humanitarian aid.

 

Yes it did.
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Maduro invited Russia to protect Venezuela from the US. Assad had also invited Russia to protect them. This was in sharp contrast to the American coalition that had entered Syria uninvited under the pretense they were fighting terrorists. Instead they were helping them fight Assad so they could grab the oil and gas in the Eastern part of Syria.

As for the government in Crimea, when 7 to 30 Crimeans were killed by the Nazis in a pogrom, they voted to unite with Russia as protection.

Look, none of this is Russia's doing. We're forcing nations to turn to Russia for protection.

 

Why? We lead the world in energy exports. Who the heck needs Venezuela? Not us.

Besides, we can just keep supporting the Saudi's.

 

Obama signs off on sanctions against Venezuela | Miami Herald
Dec 18, 2014

White House Raises Pressure on Venezuela With New Financial Sanctions
The New York Times
Aug 25, 2017

U.S. Places New Sanctions on Venezuela Day After Election
The New York Times
May 21, 2018

Because Socialism.

 

Trump's Sanctions Make Economic Recovery in Venezuela Nearly Impossible
The Nation
Sep 7, 2017

 

In other words, America caused the crisis in Venezuela.
That comes under the heading, "Blame America First"
It's an anti-intellectual response to complex situations.
Until now sanctions were targeted at the bad eggs in the
Venezuelan govt. - as they are towards other countries.
The new sanctions are in response to the crisis in that
country, not the cause of it.

 

The right wing noise machine you listen to is full of crap. Always has been. They don't care if something is true or not. The other garbage you digest is funded by Big Business. Corporate propaganda too keep you stupid so they can get richer at your expense.

 

Do Google and Facebook have an issue with Venezuela?
What about SpaceX?
Are American oil companies worried about the loss of a competitor?
How about DuPont or GM, they concerned Chavez or Maduro will challenge their market share?
And CNN and Washington Post - they "right wing"? I thought most journalists are liberal oriented?
The Sth.American Lima Group, the UN and the EU, they all speaking 'garbage'?
The history of Socialism involves hunger and scarcity - are historians 'right wing' too?