Protestors Block Betsy DeVos From Entering DC School

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  1. RichT2705

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    Be careful you know what those rights do and do not include. You don't get to smash things, block access or touch anyone, that is not in your rights...that's just a tantrum, and doesn't need to be tolerated.
     
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    What does attending a public school have to do with anything and she's been in plenty of them while engaged in her education advocacy. This is about educating ALL children not defending and maintaining the current failing public school system.
     
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    Evidence for the above? My wife is a teacher in a public school, and she can tell kids to remove their hats.
     
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    She is not part of the swamp......she's an outsider...
     
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    I frankly don't care what percentage of the country is what color.

    What I care about is quality education.

    And there has not been one argument presented that, beyond superficially, answers my question; Why is Finland doing the exact opposite and it's WORKING?

    The issue of state's rights vs. federal. This is a non-argument. State's rights are too large here (and too small in many other areas.) The issue with states rights is that you will have vast differences in education approaches, curricula and subject matter. Some states in the bible belt if given free reign would teach everyone the old testament, while other states do not. We can't act like 50 nations here. Education must be centralized to work, and the states need to cease their petty idiocies here. This is one of the ONLY areas I agree with centralized curricula of any type.

    We need to look at models that work. Choice models do not. This is proven fact. It does nothing to solve the problem.
     
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    I do not blame them from blocking her from going in. She hates the public school system and she is bent on destroying the public school system by stealing funding from the public school system using vouchers. So why should those people whose children rely on public school education welcome the monster who killed the school system in?
     
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    Battery, public disturbance, blocking her lawful entry into a public building, interference with a public official carrying out their duties, resisting arrest, that's a start that can be looked at. It's not peaceful when you engage in an assault and create a physical disturbance.
     
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    Civil disobedience is almost always illegal....and the hallmark of every great democracy.
     
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    What? Who was assaulted? I didn't see assault. Guess the authoritarian in you sees it otherwise.
     
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    Why is it better to have them relying on failed public school education rather than the freedom and choice to go to a better school? And assigning emotions to her is about as weak an argument you can make.

    You do know Elizabeth Warren supports her position on vouchers and school choice? Does Warren hate the public school system and is bent on destroying the public school system?
     
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    Link to the above CREDO report. I've never heard that. I've heard that they have very mixed results. My observation locally is that most of them have been fiscal disasters and have had mediocre results, despite having the same per student funding as the public school as a whole.
     
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    Protesting within the proper framework no one can complain. Step outside it and civil disobedience turns into something else entirely, and can (and should) be squashed.
     
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    Finland's results aren't able to be exported. Finland works because of the Finns, who view themselves as a single people. It wouldn't work as well in a multi-cultural society.
     
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    Blocking a school certainly counts as non violent civil disobedience. Arrest them if you want...but admire their courage to stand up for what they believe in a way that hurts no one physically.
     
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    They should be arrested for that. Blocking access is not within their protest rights. As to admiring them, I might have been able to if I thought even for a moment that any of this was spontaneous or genuine, but I do not. All of these demonstrations are paid astroturf from the "I don't know how to lose because I've gotten participation trophies all my life" Left.
     
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    Ghandi, MLK, Mandela. Most great protestors have rap sheets. And thank god they did not know how to lose.
     
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    Mentioning those 3 in comparison to this current group of clowns is kinds like Mentioning 3 fine Wines in comparison to a warm cup of Diarrhea.
     
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    All three were considered radicals, instigators and criminals by the right. The right has a way of doing that to freedom fighters.
     
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    She has a civil right to enter the building. Depriving others of their civil rights is a felony under federal law. Why is no one arrested charged and prosecuted when crazed leftists beat them obstruct them and destroy their property?
     
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    I would have ran over the guy that kept running in front of the SUV, if I didn't put a couple of his teeth down his throat first, for putting his hands on a lady. Do those kids even know why they're protesting her? Ironically, she's the one trying to keep kids like that from graduating uneducated.
     
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    This is not nearly at the level of importance of the Civil rights movement. This is about whiny people objecting to a choice of leadership, not people struggling for freedom and civil rights.
     
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    Blocking school entrance huh.

    New century, same democrats

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    Blocking ones pathway to their destination is not peaceful.
     

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