Racism in the Press

OK, if you believe groups do have specific reputations why not tell the Forum the reputation, as you see it, of the African-American group. Your opinion is important and relevant.

 

I'm only raciest against white people like the ones I mentioned.

Don't you see just how silly this is. You see what you want to see and stereotypes can be applied to any race as you can see. You will jump on the band wagon for black stereotypes but don't really like it too much when whites are stereotyped... this is called hypocrisy.

By the way I'm white, but my black brother in law told me a good joke when I asked him to tell me a white joke, wanna hear it? OK...

What's white and 12" long? ......... Nothing!

Hows that for "specific reputations"?

 

Not all of the Democrat KKK types followed into the Republican party.

 

so poor whites can get ID but not poor blacks?

 

Best post in the thread!

 

I think many fewer of them did though.

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Circumstances is what typically makes that newsworthy (even if it isn't necessary).

 

Johnny, my friend - I understand your defense and don't discount it as irrelevant, but this (*)(*)(*)(*) really is getting a bit absurd.

 

Look, the problem of racism is a part of American culture.

Headlines often look that way, because of influences which permeate this society, and have been for a very long time. This isn't just "getting a bit absurd"... IT HAS BEEN ABSURD for decades.

Racism isn't a small problem in this society... although certain aspects of it have been mitigated somewhat over time.

 

Unfortunately, the typical pc-based (and highly inane) attempts to fight this particular fire (as well as most others) serves more to further fuel it than douse it. But what do I know - or even care? I'm at the point where I don't really give a (*)(*)(*)(*) anymore what anyone does in this Idiotic Nation. Onward to absurdity.

 

Well, the idea of collecting slaves, using up their humanity and subsequently dehumanizing their descendants as a group for centuries... has generated a horrible legacy of fear, hatred, injustice, anger and murder.

If things seem "absurd" today, I'd say that's an improvement.

 

I agree 100%. However, it eventually behooves any victimized people to unchain themselves from their past and seize not only their present, but their future as well. Why continue to be subject to a "horrible legacy of fear, hatred, injustice, anger and murder" when to do so only results in stagnation and further victimization??? Only this time, the victimization is primarily at ones own hands (or more appropriately, memories), being to a large extent the result of a reluctance and/or inability to put past offense and injury behind, progressively lay down the variously acquired crutches, and purpose to get up and walk as free, unfettered beings.

As individuals, when we are wronged we eventually get to the point where we experience the same difficulties in letting go and moving on. But it is quite natural for us to harbor resentment, bitterness, and a whole array of unhealthy responses to our injuries. We've all experienced this to one degree or another. Natural as they may be, those habitual attitudes only hinder healing and form a major hurdle to well being. Eventually victims must either let go of those grievances and the memories that bind them like concrete to the feet of their consciousness, or else they, not those that have offended them, suffer the long term consequences. And so abused and injured individuals are routinely counseled and coaxed by professionals into letting go and ceasing the reigns of their lives. For to hold on to those grievances and that bitterness is to needlessly perpetuate their own suffering. The same principle applies to any abused and injured collection of people as well.

Through long and arduous effort, suffering, and sacrifice, African Americans have severed the bindings that were unjustly placed upon them by unjust men and an unjust racist society. Now they must sever the chains that they've unintentionally placed upon themselves - namely, the negative influences of their past - or else continue under domination of those influences.

You may appropriately chastise me that this is easy for me to say, but in reality it isn't easy at all. But I firmly believe that it is true.

 

Well that sounds all good and noble but it's still quite a far distance from the truth as the following proves. http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...-long.cnn.html

So what was that about the past and the present that you were saying?

 

Let me guess, protest in the republican south, citizens treated with respect, lefties are upset and yell "racism!" They then proceed to argue minorities are incapable of carrying IDs on them because they are child like.

Pot: dude, your black
Kettle: Racist!

 

Nice work - "We're sorry! This page is not available. Please visit the CNN homepage or use the search box below."

 

Btw - I haven't a clue what your point is but here's mine. When we as either individuals or as a group have been treated miserably by some dominating force of injustice (and perhaps even still are to some degree), how long are we going to allow the bitterness, resentment, and hatred that results dominate our focus and our lives? Rectifying and halting the problem is first priority, for sure. That's an ongoing process. But allowing the offenses to rule our minds and run us into the ground, even turning us into perpetual victims in our own minds, is counterproductive at the very least, and poisonous to our individual and collective being at worst.

 

Your statement assumes that all the mistreatment is over and it isn't. The following will make my point (don't know why the old one quit working )

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/02/23/nr-car-prank-racism-long.cnn.html

 

It assumes no such thing. In the context of my discussion with Johnny, I was referring to his comment regarding the lingering effects of slavery on the African American condition - the "horrible legacy of fear, hatred, injustice, anger and murder" (see his quote, below).

Get it? In fact, try reading my last reply to you:

"When we as either individuals or as a group have been treated miserably by some dominating force of injustice [SLAVERY] (and perhaps even still are to some degree)" [CURRENT LEVEL OF PERCEIVED RACISM].

Sorry but I don't know of any SLAVE-holding states in 2014. And I certainly wouldn't equate today's situation with the days of slavery

I also plainly stated,

"Rectifying and halting the problem is first priority, for sure. That's an ongoing process. But allowing the offenses to rule our minds..."

That's hardly denying the existence of racial problems, though I'd hardly identify them as "mistreatment". That's especially so given the manner in which most modern whites and institutions bend over backwards to provide favorable treatment (affirmative action, programs out the ass, etc), even at the expense of other races.

I think I've wasted more than enough time and effort on this. If you still don't get it, well, there's not much more I care to add - I'm not into - nor especially

 

I get it all right, we'll let it go, they just need to get over it.

 

Please forgive me for my abruptness and horrible attitude - a headache driving me crazy and I'm escaping by all this idiotic typing.

And also I ask forgiveness for my lack of empathy and arrogance in these posts about this issue.

I really want, and most of the time try, to understand the underlying motivations of others and not be hasty and stupid and unjustly critical. I'm afraid I failed on all accounts in this thread. My underlying motivation though is simple. I want to see people set free from not only injustice, but just as enslaving, their mental reactions and memories of those things that brought as well as bring them pain. I don't do a very good job at that, I'm afraid.

So in response to your summation of my position I would just say, I think we would ALL do well to "get over it", so to speak, in our reaction to offenses. The alternative isn't a good one for us.

"Getting over it" isn't the same thing as allowing hateful people, or even uncaring people, to prevail and bring us further harm. It's more a freeing of ourselves from being dominated by our reactions to and memories of those offenses, if that makes any sense.

Other people can shackle us but we ourselves hold the key to the mental chains which often result and only that serve to bring us lasting turmoil.

This is obviously merely an opinion. But it's the opinion of someone who had to deal with how long he would continue to suffer being chained to his own particular set of memories and reactions to being screwed royally and treated like dirt. And even though it took decades (much too long!), I can attest to the fact that there is unbelievable relief, and more importantly, constructive power in being free from the mental reactions to being someone's doormat.

 

That's cute. Did you just try to play the race card because somebody pointed out a hypocritical double standard being practiced by the NAACP? Do you even know what the word "racist" means? Because you don't appear to be using it correctly here.

 

A request by the organizers of an event that those participating in the event can either comply with or refuse to comply with is not a "racist" action.

A law that imposes a requirement that in effect targets a racial (or ethnic) demographic which denies them a fundamental Right, such as the Right to Vote, is a racist law.

The voter ID law in North Carolina in effect will disproportionately deny poor African-Americans their Right to Vote and is a Jim Crow voting law just like the "poll tax" laws that racist Southern States imposed prior to the US Supreme Court decision in Harper v Virginia Board of Elections.

There is no difference between a State requiring a person to purchase a copy of their birth certificate to establish that they are a US citizen (that costs between about $30-$45) before they are allowed to vote and Virginia imposing a poll tax (of $1.50) before a person was allowed to vote and both laws "target" poor African-Americans and they are racist Jim Crow voting laws.