Racism only wrong by Whites & racism only right against Whites?

Many White men get AA through veterans status AA.

 

How do you figure that?

Most of the Black themed TV shows portray Blacks in a positive light, even more than Whites, look at the Cosby Show, or Fresh Prince of Bell Air as examples where they show well off goody, goody Black families.

Or look at the Simpsons where the Black characters are shown in a positive light, like the Black doctor, or the Black cop, or Black Carl who tend to be the voice of reason.

Meanwhile Italians, Scottish, rednecks, and Irish are routinely bashed on the Simpsons.

I haven't even begun to talk about all the anti-Italian mafia movies, or TV shows which there's never been so many anti-Black gangster TV shows, or movies.

I haven't even begun to talk about how Polish are portrayed on TV, and in movies, with dumb Polak jokes being aired on TV, or how the Big Lebowski movie featured a bunch of Polish people acting crazy, and goofy, or how the crazy family in Malcom in the Middle is Polish, or how the goofy Borat speaks in Polish phrases, or how the bummy character on Taxi Ignatowski had a Polish name, or how on Hot in Cleveland on TV showed Polish as being loud mouth belligerent people.

Not to mention Laugh In, and All in the Family being TV shows portraying Polish as being dumb, sub Humans.

Not to mention the movie Schindler's List which portrayed Polish speaking guards at Auschwitz, while featured a German Oscar Schindler as going to Poland to save Jews.

Which is a real spit in the face of Polish, who also died in the concentration camps.
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Who Polish had the highest number of Righteous Among the Nations, who saved Holocaust Jews. (No mainstream movie about those, just about a German Oscar Schindler instead)

 

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I am against any kind of discrimination. Why should white men be assumed guilty because of the sins of their fathers? That is archaic and is anachronism in itself.

 

Are you talking about this?

https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/ada_veterans_employers.cfm

Hardly the kind of sweeping demographic of your ilk.

 

The Cosby Show and the Fresh Prince of Bell Air airings were a long while ago when conscious Black individuals got into media. Since then, those types of positive images have been at war with the glorification and portrayal of complete dysfunction.
Enter shows like The Wire, Empire, and Power.

On the Simpsons eeeevvvvrrrrrybody gets bashed.

A thing to consider:
You are able to identify ethnicities within the "White" group. Many Americans won't pay attention unless the ethnicity is spelt out again and again. If you took a poll, I bet many people will just see some of the characters in the shows you are referring to as white people. Racially aware whites may call some of them Jewish, especially if they feel something is off about them. I've not been aware of a campaign against Polish Americans in this country tbh. I hope you do a poll so we can see attitudes from people are are more socially and politically aware of what goes on racially regarding the Polish.

 

What do you mean?


Goverment contractors and subcontractors are obligated to show preference for Veterans. Many corporations are contractors and subcontractors for the government. That's a tremendous benefit. Many with veteran status just so happens to be white men. And many occupants of the corporate world just so happens to be...

 

Dumb Polak jokes? Never heard of those.

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Clearly you don't watch either Family Guy, American Dad or South Park because in those shows everybody gets roasted.

 

Modern leftist theories on race aren't based on science, they are whatever they can get away with.

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It's clearly not better when Whites are discriminated against, however it is still an acceptable societal prejudice.

 

That preference is not based on being a white male.

 

I'm not aware of any AA policy spelled out in racial terms. They usually just say "minority" or something real vague. Nonetheless, white men and white women benefit greatly from AA policies.

 

How many Black TV shows built upon bashing Blacks, like those against Italians in TV shows like the Sopranos, or MTV's Jersey Shore?

 

?? you were talking about veteran's preferences, not affirmative action. There is no veteran's preference that is limited to white males. It has nothing to do with race or sex.

 

Veterans preferences are written under AA laws.

The law not being spelt out in "white only" legalese doesn't negate the fact that white people are the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action.

 

You are imploding before our very eyes.

How hard is this to understand? The logic is quite simple. In one example, a veteran who happens to be white is getting a benefit because they are veterans. A black person would also be qualified. A black person, based on their race, and nothing else, benefits from affirmative action in a way that whites do not.

Given your struggle with this basic logic, I am not surprised that you deny racial differences.

 

Probably just as many as showing blacks in good lights as well.

 

Please read this thread from beginning to end before you embarrass yourself. Further, you have me mixed up with someone else. I actually believe there are differences between people and populations. Just not the same type way "White" Supremacists/Nationalist/Racial Realist of the world would have gullible people believe.

 

Oh wait, you are the candle guy.

Sorry if I was being endlessly bellicose.

Do you believe races differ in intellectual ability, adjusting for environmental variables? If my memory serves me, you think we are all the same.

 

Wrong person I think. I don't believe two people are the same let alone two different "racial" populations adjusting for whatever. I mentioned on the race forums before that groups of people are different. It's just that I wouldn't group people under the sociopolitical construct of race, rather I would group them under different criteria.

 

In practice, it would achieve similar results, but I agree with your general sentiment, in terms of practical application. By your own logic, wouldn't it be better to accept immigrants from populations that were more likely to assimilate and not subsist on government subsidies? In the chart Rayznack provided, he showed how different the immigration profiles are from country to country. Wouldn't you agree that, generally speaking, we would be better getting the majority of our immigrants from Europe and Asia, as opposed to Latin America?

 

Honestly, I would go protectionist for a while. This country has a few hundred mil people in it already and those stats exposes one of the internal problems that need to be fixed before others are let in.

If I had to choose though, it wouldn't be race-based. It'd be based on what the country wants and needs.

 

On this issue, I think we are in complete agreement. I personally want to close the spigot to everyone for a while and allow the demand for workers to get off the floor for a bit. It's funny that people commonly talk about how businesses have hundreds of applications for any given job, and yet no one seems to think there is anything wrong with this. People just seem dumbfounded at why wages aren't moving, and then they proceed to allow a million people a year into the country. The stupidity is astounding to me.

 

South Africa also had some cases against blacks.



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I'm beginning to suspect that you don't really understand either veteran's preference or affirmative action. Nothing you just wrote is true.

 

I asked what was wrong with racism if the fruits of racism are better than the fruits of diversity?

 

Hunh, What?

PART 60-300—AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND NONDISCRIMINATION OBLIGATIONS OF FEDERAL CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS REGARDING DISABLED VETERANS, RECENTLY SEPARATED VETERANS, ACTIVE DUTY WARTIME OR CAMPAIGN BADGE VETERANS, AND ARMED FORCES SERVICE MEDAL VETERANS

-Electronic Code of Federal Regulations



Another one:

Under the Veterans' Preference Act, veterans with and without disabilities are entitled to preference over others in federal hiring from competitive lists of eligible applicants and may be considered for special noncompetitive appointments for which they are eligible. While veterans' preference may offer a hiring preference over non-veterans, it does not eliminate competition, as veterans will be competing with other veterans. Additionally, agencies are not required to use veterans' preference or any other appointment process.

-Vetsfirst.org


For federal contractors and subcontractors, affirmative action must be taken by covered employers to recruit and advance qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered veterans.

-United States Department of Labor
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