Racism only wrong by Whites & racism only right against Whites?

You dodged the question. Which race or gender is excluded under Affirmative Action when minorities, women, and veterans are among the covered?

Actually, you really don't have to answer the question. It is just a tiny point in the midst of a much more relevant and important point anyway.

The poster I was responding to was trying to claim that the government was against whites while federal laws, in which many white men and women benefit, say otherwise.

 

That still doesn't answer my question, why do you need a institution in order to be racist?

If you're talking about that lady she was pretending to be black in order to be able to play the race card.

Look around. How many shows are sponsored by the KKK? How many people are praised for their true racist statements?

 

1. You don't. One only has to believe that one race is superior to another to be racist. However, this thread topic is on racism, which is basically the racist belief coupled with the "ism." The ism itself denotes action or practice, state or condition, principles, doctrines to follow, usage or characteristic, devotion or adherence.

2. Not talking about her, talking about him:



3. A politician was compelled to give money back to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC acronym makes same sound as KKK too. Coincidence maybe? ), an activist group where one of its deranged members shot up some Black Americans in a church. This website is still up. Praise is less relevant to me than actual support.

 

So why mention anything about institution!

Actually he looks more black than white. Must be the hair.

Who was the politician and why was he compelled to give money back and what did he take it from in order to give it back?

 

I wasn't dodging the question. I never made that claim. It's your dodging of reality by conflating veteran's preference with affirmative action that I have an issue with, and the fact that you cannot agree that a fact, is in fact, a fact, is troubling.

 

[MENTION=70321]Maccabee[/MENTION],

So why mention anything about institution!

DarkSkies: Because that's a key ingredient to upholding racism.

Actually he looks more black than white. Must be the hair.

DarkSkies: ^^And this is one of the reasons why the idea of race being a biological construct over a social construct is ridiculous. We are supposed to believe that "the hair" helps dictate whether he's closer to rather than .

Who was the politician and why was he compelled to give money back and what did he take it from in order to give it back?

DarkSkies: Ted Cruz. He prolly gave the money back because he didn't want to be seen as someone who takes money from a group that manufactures mass murderers lol.

 

Yeah there are separate veterans preference laws. You seem to believe veterans preferences are only under one set of laws and none under AA though. If they removed the separate veterans preference laws, there would still be other preference regulations under AA.

 

I "believe" that veteran's preferences are under different laws than affirmative action because they are. Sometimes you have to "believe" what the facts are.

 

But the entire argument from what I understand was institution is what makes something racist or not.

Looking at it further he looks more Latino.

Do you have evidence for this?

 

lol. Affirmative Action laws are basically preference laws. This is why people who don't know any better believe that "AA has Blacks taking jobs from Whites" or that "The government uses Affirmative Action against Whites." They understand that they are preference laws. They just don't realize who actually benefits from the AA laws.

 

Well you were arguing that white males benefit from affirmative action when that's not the case, so I would argue that you don't know either.

 

Well the institution is what helps sustain the ism in racism.


Latino really isn't a race. There are "Black," "White," "Mixed," "Indigenous," and "Other" Latinos.


Do I have evidence for Ted Cruz giving the CCC back their money?

No. It was reporting in Politico and the Washington Post though. His campaign issued statement regarding CCC's contributions.

 

So, some white men aren't disabled and many veterans aren't white??????

Affirmative action includes coverage for qualified minorities, women, disabled, and veterans. There is nothing in the laws excluding white males under disabled or veterans. If there is, please share the code(s).

 

It's been said several times already: Veteran's Preference is NOT Affirmative Action. I'm not sure why you can't seem to grasp that.

 

Who cares? That's not my argument. That's yours. I listed plenty of times what my own arguments were and that isn't one of them.

I've made my point. The government isn't against Whites and that's that.

 

Race based laws excluding whites are by definition against whites.

 

Alrighty then. You are going to share the names of the race-based laws excluding whites right?

 

That has nothing to do with what we've been discussing.

 

You were arguing against a point I never made. My point was that many white men get AA through veterans status. That claim was to provide the support to the idea that the government does not use AA against whites. Your counter was something like veterans preference is not AA. Which is a fair statement to make, but it negates none of what I had to say. While yes there are veterans preference laws, these laws are not against Whites and even if they didn't exist, some AA preference regulations are written for veterans anyway.

 

It's kinda weird that you had to ask that question. You evidently live in a part of the world where it's not common.

There is significant racism directed at whites by several cultural/ethnic groups, in my part of the world. It's high grade xenophobia. They won't even intermarry ... even though they're born and raised amongst whites, and it's often difficult to find partners of their own ethnicity. That's the ultimate xenophobia, in my books. If you prefer to source a partner offshore in preference to intermarrying, you have serious problems with racism.

 

In my experience (which is considerable, in this regard) it's rarely about melanin. It's almost always CULTURE (behaviour), and appearance is merely the signal of that culture/behaviour. Modern adult humans are evolved enough to be effectively colourblind, unless they're living in extreme isolation and have never been exposed to difference.

 

That's a specifically American problem, and not at all universal. Here, our majority migrants (as opposed to refugees) are wealthy and educated. We benefit from the money they bring into the country, and the higher standards they bring for things like education.

 

While I am not sure people are so 'colour blind' as you say people do generally feel unhappy about being obviously racist as it is not as yet socially acceptable despite the anti pc work.

Scholars recognise what you say that it now is based more on culture though I think you are probably quite early in the US to be aware of this

http://www.academicroom.com/topics/what-is-cultural-racism

 

This is the point you made that I was arguing against.

That Veteran's Preference is Affirmative Action and...

...that White people are the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action. That's not true.

 

The thing is many people equate behavior to race.