Rand Paul: Drone program ‘very scary’

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  1. Mac-7

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    I don't know that it will never happen.

    Obama has done some very unprecedented things already.

    To my knowledge no president has publicly admitted to ordering the assassination of Americans overseas.

    Guns were transferred to the Mexican drug cartel under Bush but they were really trying to track them and stopped the program when it was obvious that the drug dealers were smarter than the BATF agents.

    Under Obama he made no attempt to track the weapons and sent thousands across the border for God only knows what reason.

    Shows all the signs of being an aspiring dictator.

    So armed drones over our heads that can rain down death on his orders is new but entirely in keeping with his personality.

    But if you are a loyal Obama supporter unless someone feeds the wrong coordinates into the machine you will have nothing to fear.
     
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    Holder is covering his a$$...and that is what concerns me. He and others that are going through confimation could answer directly if they really thought Obama would never do such a thing. I believe they know different. And down the road, they don't want this testimony and other answers they are presenting now, to bite them in the butt.

    Under the Obama administration, there was a hit ordered in Yemen on a US Citizen. No collateral damage, he was the target. No imminent threat. Hits abroad have been debated, and now we are debating targetting US citizens at home. Not while they are plotting a terrorist attack, but while they are out at a movie with their families. No due process, no attempt to arrest, no imminent danger.

    I have a huge problem with this, and it is clear to me, that this is unconstitutional. I don't need to dream up all the reasons why Obama would do such a thing, only so the looney left can call me a freak. Reasons are irrelevant. Holder should have stuck with the Constitution on this.
     
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    Oh gee...Holder got cornered and finally admitted on record today (sort of, kicking and screaming)....Drone assasinations, or any assasinations on US citizens where threat is not imminant, are unconstitutional!

    I'm starting to think Holder has no street smart and is a book smart only kind of person. Good memory would just about do it, but no cognitive skills necessary.
     
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    ....starting with Sen. Paul, right?

    This is criminal breach of out constitution. Impeach this usurper.
     
  9. exotix

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    Depends on what an American is .... is ...

    Take for instance, delusional party of hate & death conservatives actually believing they are patriots because they believe they're actually going to take the country back with 2nd Amendment *remedie* small-arms .... as Drones have them targeted ...

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    exotix believes in the government being able to illegally murder American citizens on American soil. Take note of that.
     
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    I'm merely getting a kick out of Paulie acting all scared because his tea party freaks will have to actually go up against Drones with pithy AR-15's more befitting for executing kindergartners ...
     
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    Paulie? You have to lower yourself so beneath any reasonable standard that you have to resort to messing with someone's name? Wow. No you support murdering Americans illegally. That says a lot about who you are as a person. Oh and not one Tea Party member were involved in those shootings. Oddly enough, the Batman shooter was a Democrat, as was the cop killer Dorner.

    If you want to see your fellow Americans murdered illegally then I suspect there is something that you need to address within yourself before you ever consider opening your mouth in public again.
     
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    Quit crying like a wuss ... the tea party of hate & death would gladly call for the use of Drones against Libs if they could.
     
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    The next time she does will be the first!

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    You're lying again.
     
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    I'm crying like a wuss because I'm addressing you like an adult as opposed to your "Paulie" "the party of hate & death"(yet I'd guess you couldn't back that up with multiple sources proving that Tea Party members were involved in murders) "Libs", etc.? Instead of being so acute, how about you try this, actually listen to Rand Paul instead of responding with your paint by colors political dribble that barely stands as debating. You'd realize that he is against the use of drones against American citizens regardless of their party affiliation. This isn't a matter of the Tea Party vs. Liberals, even if framing it that way makes it easier for you to construct a response, if albeit really poor quality responses.

    So please step up or arrive finally to the actual discussion instead of pumping out more "posts" like you have been lately.
     
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    Of course not. Don't waste your time.
     
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    No thanks ... if I have to listen to a loonbat quack in hysterics because he's scared that Holder will unleash Drones on 'em ... well ... *Yawn*
     
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    I deleted that post. But not in time... LoL! Whatever...
     
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    Rand Paul picked the right issue to make a stand on. He is unifying the Democrats and Republicans against Obama on this issue. It's great to see something like this happening again and that there might be some people in the government that care about ALL Americans.
     
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    I think the important point is, is that Paulie has found a new way of conservative obstruction & filibuster ... simply stay on the congressional-floor podium and talk all day and all night for days on end so no vote can be held ....

    I can at least give Paulie credit for that precedence ... [​IMG]
     
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    Actually a speaking filibuster is an old school move. This isn't a first time it's happened.

    The important point is that Republicans and Democrats are unifying finally again on an issue. That's a great break through. Fighting to protect all Americans from both parties? Sounds great to me! Why doesn't it sound good to you? Why do you want to have your fellow citizens murdered because they don't believe in the same politics as you? Why do you support illegal non-combat murders of your fellow Americans? If we take your line of thought all the way down the road, why do you hate America? Why do you place one man, the president, above the country as a whole?

    I doubt you'll respond with any shred of respect for yourself or this forum. Do surprise me though and post something that isn't thoroughly embarrassing.
     
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    I'm a card-carrying Dem ... so I'm not on a hellfire-missiles' auto-targeting ... [​IMG]
     
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    Just what I expected. Okay, hey if you want to be a supporter of murder and you want to kill your fellow Americans that aren't Democrats then go for it. No one supports you, not even your fellow Democrats anymore. We all know what kind of person you are. I feel bad for you and I hope you recover from your problems one day. Sincerely I do. I feel bad for anyone who has murder fantasies like you do and especially when it's traitorous murder fantasies against your fellow citizens.

    Folks, may I make a suggestion? Let's make believe like exotix is dead and ignore her posts. Sounds good? This forum has to be better than this and we should ignore people that bring it down. I for one am no longer feeding this troll. Join me?
     
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    Good luck with that one ... when conservative nOObulums come over here believing this is a right-wing hate-site ... they usually find out they have to go up against the exotix and battle thier way to it ... and they always lose.
     
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    Shouldn't have...it was dead-on right!

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    Seep professional help. You are hallucinating!
     

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