Repub voter suppression rears it's ugly head once again.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Exact match aka properly filled out forms.. No its not about suppression ffs do you bother to read anything presented to you? What are you afraid of that you might actually learn something? I brought up part of the OP's link ffs.. Submitting false information to you is "commendable"?
     
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    first, i'll start off with, agitator!

    secondly, our constitution requires that ONLY citizens may vote in our elections, so requiring proof positive of citizenship should be in universal agreement... there's ONLY one reason for arguing against it, fraud! and those that wish to perpetrate fraud...
     
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    It’s reasonable because it happens during voter registration.
    I don’t see where you’re going and still don’t. Of course you need to show an acceptable form of ID to register and fill out forms properly. But, there are still many who might need help filling out forms and getting them close is fine if EVERYTHING ELSE is in line.
    We Should not have to be a photo ID when many younger city dwelling voters don’t normally drive and have access to photo IDs. There are other acceptable forms. If the Poject can help, great. But if missing one letter or two is what you hold as a standard when everything else including a licence and photo ID is presented.....and you want it suppressed and you are dead wrong.
     
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    Not when only citizens vote 99.99% of the time. It’s a Canard to suppress other citizens whose color you don’t like.
     
  5. RP12

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    So you are suggesting thousands of people can not spell their name or mailing address? Seems racist to me but hey roll with that!
     
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    why are you so against proving citizenship, are you an illegal? or are you working for the dnc?
     
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    I had to get every letter right on all of the 4473’s. My cousin’s job is to take away newly purchased guns from people who misspelled their name or address on a 4473. Why is voter registration any different?
     
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    If it’s a letter or two, ABSOLUTELY. And that includes you too at times. Guarantee you are never perfect.
    This is how the rest of the real world works for people who are not voter-suppressing repugnants.

    . There are no banks, insurance companies, gov agencies, hospitals that will refuse you LOCAL service if you misspell slightly, either your address or name. Btw, other then your signature, you can misspell a lot of things on your IRS forms. They all use a preponderance of evidence. As soon as you produce a billing address, license or hand gun permit, none of which may technically agree with one middle initial with your signature, you get service.

    Being exact in everything on forms you hand fill out, puts you at the mercy of whom ever is transcribing your form into a computer, or whom ever writes your name down if you verbally present it. If other evidence like birth date, photo ID, place of residence SS number etc are fine, you move on if minor misspellings are of less consequence.

    Anytime other people are involved and there was a mistake we always used a preponderance of evidence, in the govt, law enforcement, healthcare and business....cause I’ve seen it in all of them. You guys are FOOLS. You don’t even pretend to live in the real world. The non local IRS and Passports are different as and you will not always be able to produce more then one form of acceptable ID ..... Registering for voting or using local services is different and local PRECINCTS Where you will be voting, is different. There are other acceptable forms of ID.

    Now, if your name is really Smith on your hand carried IDs and you sign it Jones, you have a problem. But I’m sure you guys aren’t foolish enough to not understand that.
     
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    Your obsession with defending fraud is duly noted.
     
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    Get real, live in the real world. You don’t prove your insurance and address or citizen ship EVERYTIME. You go to the hospital, only the first time when you register and this is about thousands of dollars. You have no valid point.,
     
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    Your unwillingness to read the truth is apparent. You got your one explanation by someone who obviously knows more then you.....
     
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    Two perfect examples of why this discussion never gets moved up the ladder. I am surprised neither of you two din't use the democrat parties favorite term "voter disenfranchisement" that one is always a giggle.
    The first is a blatant block and redirect away form the topic of Photo ID
    The second is an example of a person that cannot grasp the fact a photo ID is not about voter fraud it is all about election integrity.

    I have heard both bumbling excuses for years and neither of then are rational but you will cling to them because you think the topic will go away by itself.
     
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    Wow, how did you get so woefully misinformed?
    My guess is your information source lies and has no shame.
     
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    How can I make sure my registration form is accepted?
    Make sure you fill in all information requested in the form completely, accurately and legibly. Place it in an envelope, and affix the proper amount of postage to it.
    https://www.eac.gov/voters/national-voter-registration-act/

    Now this is for mail in but the same thing applies for all forms..
    f"ill in all information requested in the form completely, accurately and legibly"

    YOU and people like you are claiming minorities simply can not do this even with help!
     
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    Don't worry. It's MO.
     
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    Why should You presume I am not a citizen and am breaking the law. I have due process don’t I You’re interfering with my right to vote.
     
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    I didn’t mention minority once in my explanation. but you did.
     
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    Felons should be able to vote, once they have served their time. Just my opinion.
     
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    It shouldn’t be. You assume a private seller of a gun is law abiding with no registration required at all, you should assume a voter is too after he’s registered. It’s call due process.
     
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    I never mentioned minorities. You seem to be the one whose afraid of giving them due process and the right to vote.
     
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    As I stated earlier, you have absolutely no idea of existing federal or state laws regarding the sale and transfer of firearms.

    That aside your statement "you assume" is nothing more than a word that will get me kicked off this forum.
    Remember this grasshopper, NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING!
    It will serve you well in life.
     
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    I fill them out when buying guns new from government mandated dealers. You work on getting rid of voter suppression and I will work on getting rid of FFLs.
     
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    I don’t need to hear your sanctimonious lecture. I have a presumption of innocence because I know it’s a federal crime to commit voter fraud and as a voter, you can’t presume I am .
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    You cannot presume I am not a legal private seller of a firearm Because I am knowingly selling a gun to an illegal buyer. I am therefore not obliged to show any proof in either case without due process.
     
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    Why does it appear Blacks have a problem with paperwork in Georgia, and other minorities do not?

    I don't get it.
     
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    I guess you don’t know the differences between private sellers and FFL dealers. There is no requirement to fill out any forms or submit any information under federal law in a private sale.
     

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