Republicans, the Party of Family Values, Suggest Migrant Babies Should Be Starved

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  1. Bowerbird

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    I am more concerned that a company making baby formula would need even that long to clean up its act. How filthy was this establishment?
     
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    Agreed.

    This has been their established track record, as well as the established track record of US federal government over the last, umm, like 40 years.
    That leaves the ball in your court to prove that they are not, doesn't it?
     
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    No doubt about it, what you said should be on the table. It’s just like donating blood.
     
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    Do you plan to just continue with that fallacious argument.... It being generous to even call it an argument....


    At what point do you plan to answer the many valid questions posed to you in this thread that you refuse to touch with a 10-ft pole?
     
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    No it has only recently become a concern due to supply chain issues. This is down to companies. Why is no one actually putting the blame on the people truly responsible? Good grief - you just had to close a baby formula manufacturer because the product was so contaminated 4 babies got sick and two died but somehow that is Biden’s fault. If any of you had listened to the video from Chris Hayes I linked to earlier you would have found the essential issue is that this is and was an oligopoly that has been paying to remain one for years. Find out who they have been handing the political donations to and start kicking some serious political arse
     
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    No I am still asking the question that everyone is dodging. Given the scarcity of product who will you deny the product to?
     
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    Why should I respond to insane drivel and “gotcha” questions? I started this thread to highlight how many so called “pro-lifers” change their stripes when the baby is born. If this we’re not so America would not have one of the highest if not the highest infant mortality rates in the developed nations
     
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    I guess after 4 years of reduced oversight, it might take a little longer to clean up their act, but it shouldn't be THAT hard....

    https://www.science.org/content/article/exclusive-fda-enforcement-actions-plummet-under-trump

    It might be harder to convince even hard-up parents that Abbott product manufactured in that plant is OK going forward... I bet many will start checking where their baby formula is coming from now...
     
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    Personally, I would deny it to the states that will insist on more babies being born instead of allowing natural population control...
     
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    I fail to see how the phrases "established track record" and "additional bureaucratic obstacles" (both yours) can coexist...

    Have a great day!!
     
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    Most RWingnuts I know would load them on trucks with pitchforks for convenient dumping in the Rio Grande.

    Abbot is going to be deSantis main competition for the 2024 Republican Presidency. Trump will be insulting both of their wives in April and they will be vying with each other to suck the Mushroom Member in July after he wins the candidacy.
     
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    ~ Here is a lady who agrees with you ...
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    Is this a joke?

    This is the very question YOU ARE DODGING. I've asked you twice already and you CAN'T answer it. Somewhere shortly after this thread got going you realized the gaping hole in your argument but instead of having the integrity to admit it, you just ignore those who've proven you wrong.

    So how about YOU ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTION.

    Who would you deny it to? Or to be more specific, who should american taxpayers pay to feed, american babies or illegal immigrant babies? (since your question implies someone isn't getting fed)

    And to be clear, conservatives in this thread have answered this question many times over.

    Feel free to not respond for the 3rd time. We all know you don't have an answer. Your thread and argument have been thoroughly trashed and we all know it's why you aren't even attempting to make an argument anymore.
     
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    Personally I would do what the government is actually doing ~ looking to bolster the current market with imports and then looking at the whole oligopoly arrangement, which if any of you “eeek! The MSM is going to rot my brain” crew had bothered to watch the video from Chris Hayes his guest lays out the REAL issue with the oligopoly of baby formulas that are bolstered by government subsidies that only specify one brand - what the??? The way it is laid out reeks of government corruption and THERE is the real issue - not immigrants but rot from within.

    Do you realise there has been more outrage on this thread about giving formula to babies that need it than the fact that an American company caused serious illness in four babies two of whom died! The factory was found to have caused those deaths back in Feb but where was the outrage. You know while they have Americans attacking Americans they can grift to thier heats delight

    So, in summary, I would be going after the CEO of Abbott sticking my boot so far up his/her bum it would tickle his/her tonsils and demand HE/SHE fixed the problem THEY caused by letting the factory become filthy and go and start sourcing new safe formula from elsewhere
     
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    Here's another local CA story on the measures taken to try and convince Americans nothing was wrong in 2020

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/shame-foster-farms-trump-administration-160000093.html

    Republicans - The party of Appearance over Substance...
     
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    Well you responded, but didn't even remotely answer the question that you yourself posed. You claimed everybody was dodging it (they aren't, conservatives have been clearly answering it), but you yourself won't touch it.

    So let's try again...
    Who would you deny the product to?
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    Some of your quotes in this thread:

    Both of these posts of yours are clear. You have a very real problem with illegal immigrant babies not receiving formula. But what is also clear is that, in both scenarios, someone isn't getting the formula they need. Why is it that you clearly have a problem with illegal immigrants not getting it, but seemingly have no problem if american babies don't get the formula they need?

    You don't need to answer or respond, every single person here knows it's nothing more than a political game to you. You get more political points taking one side over the other.
     
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    Everyone?

    I've seen others answer also. Mayhap you just didn't like the answers.
     
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    So many you keep trying to converse with or reason with in this thread have permanent partisan blinders tattooed on that the will never see the systemic corruption as being at fault when they can simply just blame Biden and the enemy democrats while victimizing the easy target, illegal aliens. But, I commend the dedication to expose hypocrisy and partisan tunnel vision, that battle never ends.
     
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    You were asked perfectly valid questions and you refuse to answer them because it clearly exposed your double standards.

    For instance, you kept claiming that people wanted to deny illegal immigrant baby's formula.

    When you were asked if giving those babies formula first meant you wanted to deny American babies formula you ran away with your tail tucked.
     
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    And profits over baby's lives ( Just as long as they not inside somebody else's body)

    How do we fracking STAND these people? or really rather WHY? Do we ALL think we'll be billionaires someday? Because that's the the ONLY people I ever see Republicans benefiting, just being a paltry millionaire is no longer enough
     
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    We're not starving them. The people they are citizens of starved them.

    Was the US responsible for the mass murder in Rwanda? The starvation in Venezuela? The starvation caused by the Great Leap Forward in China?

    No. If people are dying south of our border, then it's because the countries they come from either don't care or are causing it.
     
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    Human traffickers, and no, I don't.

    Unless you'd like to ask me questions to find out.
     
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    Doubling down on stupid is a leftist trait.
     

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