Rick Perry’s bizarre speech

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  1. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Tease all you like, but there is a direct line between the people the CIA trained, and the Reagan administration armed to fight the Soviets in the 1980s, and the people that trained and funded 911... CAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE THE SAME FREAKING PEOPLE!!!

    Now if we wanna talk hindsight IMO the mistake was totally uprooting all operations in Afghanistan, and Pakistan after the conflict ended. The Afghan people needed help rebuilding, and establishing a functioning government. The Pakistani people were all set to be America's best ally in the sub continent, and perhaps all of Asia. When the funding and help left so did those peoples faith in America, a problem that is all too apparent as America tries to work with Pakistan now.
     
  2. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Not what the late Democrat Congressman Joe Wilson who furnished them to them said. 9/11 occurred some 25 years later. And what did stinger missiles have to do with 9/11? Hmm....I'm pretty sure they used commercial airlines'; not shoulder-fired stinger missiles.

    What do you think about the late Democrat Congressman Joe Wilson, anyway? A hero? Not? Do you admire him? Did you support his going around Congress and supplying the Mujahadeen with those shouldder-fired misisles? Were you thrilled when they finally brought down a Soviet helicopter with one that he furnished them? He was.

    Heck, they made a movie about him; portrayed him as a hero. And that was done by liberals.
     
  3. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    I could clip out and piece together bits and pieces of Obama's comments and make him look like a fool too. Big deal.
     
  4. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Joe Wilson was a product of his times and you are right it is a lot more to do with the 25 years post Afghan v Soviet War than the operation itself.

    Communism did not fall in Europe because of bullets, but because of not getting toilet paper to its people.
     
  5. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No need to clip anything to do that though.
     
  6. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    At least you have some knowledge of events there.

    We chose to oppose the Soviets there. It began in earnest with Carter. And continued with Reagan. But we essentially did not arm Bin Laden and the other Arab jihadists who migrated there to fight the Soviets. We sure as heck did not train Bin Laden. The Saudi's and Pakistani's provided primarily for the Arabs. And Bin Laden financed himself for the most part. All this info is available. We supplied the Afghan's. The one's who then opposed the Taliban in the 90's after the Soviet puppet regime fell. Massoud's people. Not the Arabs. The Paki's supported the Taliban. We were in no position to stop them. The Paki's harvested Arab fighters for Kasmir from Arabs trained in Afghanistan.

    As for the latter part of your post, I agree. American foreign policy after the Soviets left, which was Bush Sr, and then Clinton, was negligent. But not Reagan.

    FWIW, in hindsight, a real good argument can be made that we should have helped the Soviets. I'm quite serious.
     
  7. drpepper

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    ha!

    nice try. train his - you train him. (we DID train him BTW).

    Jonah Goldberg couldn't have written a better revison than you did!

    Russia was LOSING and we had NO business piling on - just to make ourselves look like we were fight communism.

    Bin Laden himself balmed Reagan's use of Saudi lands.

    again, nice try.
     
  8. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, at least Perry is Campaigning , Fred was the laziest candidate I ever saw .
     
  9. drpepper

    drpepper New Member

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    Thompson was treated the same way as these "candidates,"

    he was supposed to be your savior.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not for long , as he did not accept the role and rolled over
     
  11. ian

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    Bloody hell, that guys toasted. Oh well, you still have the great black hope of the Republican party.
     
  12. Margot

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    Yes we did arm and train the Mujahadeen by proxy,,, The CIA was crawling all over Yemen recruiting fighters for Afghanistan.
     
  13. Think for myself

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    See? He was not drunk. That is how he always acts.

    A bit scary. Personally, I would have come up with a better story, but if perry wants to claim that is how he always acts and talks, well, more power to him.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...typical-banter-article-1.971731#ixzz1cevIdSbZ



    Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for critics who called his recent New Hampshire speech bizarre: Get used to it.

    The Republican presidential hopeful denied Wednesday that he had been drinking or was on meds when he delivered an address in which he tittered, gestured wildly and went off on strange tangents.

    It was "a pretty typical speech for me," Perry told the San Francisco Chronicle. "I've probably given 1,000 speeches. There are some that have been probably boring, some that have been animated, some that have been in between."

    He even told the Texas Tribune on Tuesday that he "felt great" about the speech.

    Video from Perry's unusually expressive speech went viral on the Internet, and several critics suspected the governor had a few too many drinks before taking the stage in Manchester.

    Some locals, however, rushed to Perry's defense.

    Jennifer Horn, a New Hampshire Republican organizer who is not committed to any candidate, called a press conference in Nashua Thursday to defend Perry's performance. She told CNN there wasn't anything about Perry's conduct "on the stage or off the stage to suggest he was under the influence."

    Kevin Smith, who invited Perry to speak at the dinner, told The Hill that the Texas governor drank "only water" there. "He was loose and passionate," Smith said.

    When asked about “The Daily Show” host Jon Stewart suggesting Perry had been slinging back a few drinks, the governor insisted "It wasn't that either."

    "It's not that I wouldn't love to sit down with Jon and have a glass of wine — if he'll buy,"joked Perry.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...typical-banter-article-1.971731#ixzz1cevIdSbZ
     
  14. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not out of the ordinary for the GOP....look at how people were saying Sarah Palin did "okay" with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric...

    The GOP and the DNC are different in very few ways....except how the GOP likes to take it's idiots under it's wing when they screw up, and the DNC just gets quiet when things like Dean moments happen, and then they find them another job. The GOP will nominate you for ruler of the universe if you gaffe big enough
     
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    Landru Guide Us Banned

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    I love this photo of Thompson and his girlchild wife. He looked like a kidnapper at a prom. Now he would be the best leader of the Tea Party ever!

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  16. Goldwater

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    A Tea Party leader for sure.....specially if he whoops her round a' bit.

    I can totaly picture her in that red truck of his in daisy dukes, a confederate flag skimpy white shirt, and a black eye.
     
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    Landru Guide Us Banned

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    In the video, Perry looks and acts like Dean Martin at one of his roasts, sucking on a cigarette and sipping a glass a burbon while hamming it up with Joey Bishop.

    So it wouldn't surprise me if he were drunk Though perhaps he was just giddy about having dug up the sexual harrassment case he just leaked to Politico and so could not contain his glee.
     
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    "black eye". Superb. I bow to you superior use of telling imagery!
     
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    [​IMG]

    PERRY: Here's to you, New Hampshire! Live Free or Die! Mmmmm, that's good booze!
     
  20. a777pilot

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    LOL!

    I have an idea....If you don't like Perry, or Cain, or Gingrich, or Obama, then don't support them. Don't sent them money. Don't vote for them.

    I like Perry. If given a choice I will vote for him.

    I like Cain. If given a choice I will vote for him.

    I like Gingrich. If given a choice I will vote for him.

    I do NOT like like Obama. There is no circumstance in which I would vote for him.
     
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    oh, the ol' "mark of Cain" the evangelicals always talked about.....
     
  22. Goldwater

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    What if you made a list of what you'd like the president to do.....and Obama did everything you want done?.....would you vote for him then?.....

    I know that wouldn't happen..but say it did, just for giggles....would you vote for him then?
     
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    So you'll vote for a drunk and college drop out, a sexual predator, and a convicted embezzler, but not an intelligent black man who saved the economy after the Bush Crash.

    Got it! You're a **********.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

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    Huntsman would be a good choice, but he's not radical enough to attract the fundamentalist wing of the GOP.
     
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    He's in the wrong party and regrettably he's already had to say insane things to stay in the ********** pack.

    When the moderator of the last debate asked the circus of lunatics if they would ever raise taxes, even if it resulted in a 10 to 1 return to the economy, they all said they wouldn't. Huntsman could have stood out of that crowd of mental patients by stating, of course we need to raise taxes.

    But he didn't have the guts to buck the **********y that the GOP has become.
     

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