Russia denies deployment of troops in Egypt

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  1. goody

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    I think I actually meant there was a Russian "TANK" used in the operation which fired upon the school building while children were still being held as hostage inside...

    However, I do agree with you that drones "intentionally" attack large "rural" crowds or gatherings like weddings for the purpose of depopulating the "unfit"... Nice point... Seriously...
     
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    ...a. That's what it about.

    Is that what it is about? About 'challenging world powers once again', and other rustly imperialistic bullcrap like that? I though that people in Turkey grew over that already.
     
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    We grew over what now? lol...
     
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    Over the imperialistic dreams and fighting among nations for power. We already established one, common 'world power' - United Nations. Exactly to prevent the existence of big influential empires such as ones that existed in XIX century, that kept tearing world apart between themselves, until it all resulted in one - and then another - World War.

    I sincerely though that citizens of Turkey managed to grow to understand that even before my own nation did.
     
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    If you read the reviews of professionals from special operations around the world (for example, the British SAS or the Israeli Mossad) about the operation to release hostages in the Beslan school you will understand that the operation was conducted at a very high level. (Taking into account of course all circumstances).
     
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    Oh My Gaaawwwwd... How come you still bring up "proofs" and "legitimacy" when I'm still waiting for your "promised" proofs of your famous "INVITATION FOR RUSSIAN INTERVENTION" to Syria..?

    Let's be real men now and name the sh.it as it is:

    "Ninian, hereby has "FAILED" to provide his "promised" legal "PROOFS" of any sort that can be accepted as an evidence that proving Russian military intervention to Syria was all by the book... And he sends his apologetic regards to all Turks"

    Simple...

    There's no shame in it dude. I'm telling you, if I failed that way, I'd apologize immediately for at least not making myself further a fool in front of a foreign crowd... And I'd do it bigly, tremendously, and immediately... Come on bud, you can do it...
     
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    Well you should understand culture of primitive people's, since you spring from one, and it actually took you this long to figure out the earth is round, what did they teach you in Muscovy all this time, are you aware the SU collapsed? If not look it up! Where does hygiene fit into the conversation here, are you missing teeth or have body odor, there is such a thing as a brush and deodorant, or are these amenities lacking in your environment?
     
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    I know they came from Chechnya. That's what I said in my post to you..
     
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    For what, exactly, do you want me to apology? For pointing that turkish military is not welcome in Sirya?
     
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    So it will never be legit for a ppl to rise up to their dictator and recive help from outside ? by "law" they will be enslaved unless they can somehow win the fixed elections the regime holds or win over the military that supresses them. does that sound fair to you ?
     
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    No, but these are rules we live with. Besides - nobody stops these people from adressing the UN - and proving through legit provedures that government of country is not legit. That is not fair, politics generally were - and mainly still are - not fair. This is a problem, sure, and that problem should be resolved. But not by civil wars.
     
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    Where's that "Kill-yourself-guy" when you needed him the most?

    Dude... Please don't tell this to anyone now, because it's a top-secret info; but the only imperialistic dreamer, if there is any, is Mr. Putin himself.
    Why? Because Turks didn't sign any 2020 Maritime doctrine in 2001 which revolves around some 17th century Tsarist ideals of seeking "warm water ports"... Because Turks didn't annex lands... Because Turks didn't pursue "Yeltsins" in rival countries like Duterte, Assad, or Trump... And moreover dude, because Turks comprehend well what they read, they don't make stupid inferences like saying some other foreign national is imperialist just because he said soon his nation would challenge the world powers, because Turks know that would be nothing more than a pathetic attempt to divert the attention from a badly failed discussion earlier to somewhere else. Please promise me that you won't tell these to anyone okay? And keep whispering because they can still hear us... Take it is man...
     
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    I'd be glad to read those if you'd be so kind and share the links... Thanks... Regards...
     
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    ...and there we go again... I wonder what are people like you going to be doing, when Putin goes in retirement? What other excuse for being full of **** will there be for people?
     
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    For ""wrongfully"" accusing other nations' military units -in this case Turkish military that happened to be intervening in Syrian ""CIVIL WAR"" with an attempt to ensure the security of Turkish "CITIZENS"- with "invading" Syria illegally, while it cannot be PROVEN that your own military presence in Syria is "more" legit...

    Thanks in advance bro...
     
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    Oh, you know for a fact? He's seems quite comfortable in his current position, and there's apparently no indication he wants to leave anytime soon!
     
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    I'd be sad... Because no matter what he stands up for his nation strongly... I admire that... Seriously...
     
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    So what if military of my country may turn out not be there on legit matters? That changes status of YOUR military? It does not. And from what I understood, you dislike the hegemonic invaders... Why are not you saying that your military has no place there, then? As well as military of USA, and possibly - military of RF?
     
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    It is not his decidion to make.
     
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    He may stand strongly, but unsuccesfully. He had sixsteen years of being a direct president, or having a hich influence on president, and results do not look worthy of that time. Results are disappointing.
     
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    I just can't say Turkish military has no place there because Turkish military is not there for some kind of imperialistic interest, like pursuing warm-water ports or establishing puppet states, but because for "SECURING" its own borders that are threatened by some Russian/US proxies, many of which are either "officially designated" terrorist organizations, or their very well known extensions...

    Simply; I am there to keep on breathing, you are there for securing a warm-water port, the US and allies are there for Balkanizing the region by establishing puppet states...

    So, who deserves the most respect? The one who fights for its own existence? or the ones who seek bargaining chips and gains?

    Be honest !
     
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    If we got to such polemics - RF should have respect for it's conflicts in Chechnya and in bordering states such as Ukraine and Georgia.

    But problem being - these activities are not legal. They violate international law. And you pretty much clearly can see, how 'welcome' such violations across the world. Hint-hint, three unemployed relatives.
     
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    I'm sorry that doesnt sound very practical, I agree that in Syria there are camps of opposing forces - each with its own rights - I accept Russian presence even thou it assists a dictator, because Damascus ppl have their rights, I accept American presence even thou it probebly supports some barbaric force because those ppl have the right to stand up to their dictator and God knows they paid dearly for that, and I accept Turkish presence even thou I detest their Sultan and most Turks would want to see me dead because the war has leaked over to their borders so they should do what needed to secure themselves. it's a mess I agree but no one can claim higher law.
     
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    And that mess is taking lives. It's a hazardous, lethal mess that we are supposed to be solving, not escalating.
     
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    Nice link.
     

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