Russia is winning the economic war - and Putin is no closer to withdrawing troops

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Well....no...just easy to see through BS.
     
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    So no different from CNN.
     
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    A real leader would be working to end this war not trying to politically benefit from it.
     
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    The sanctions in place now....with more following....are in for the long haul...even if Dwarfstan would cease firing now....and withdraw ,it wouldn't change anything.

    As it stands now....according to a Reuters article I recently read.....if sanctions were lifted shortly ....it would take 10 yrs...maybe more for the Russki economy to get back to pre Feb 2022 levels....providing energy $$$ stayed high ,same with resources and such.....10 yrs is an eternity....Dwarfstan will be long dead by then....separatist movements would fragment Russia further....millions of younger Russkis fleeing internal turmoil to EU, further brain draining Mafialand.....those are just a start.
     
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    It's funny how they try to pretend that India and China are going to make up for all that they've lost due to western sanctions, too.

    Things will become very interesting within a few more months, I'd wager, especially with European imports of Russian energy going down, down, down.
     
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    25-30% drop in GDP for this year, not even a dictator that can keep that up for long.
     
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    Pure Fantasy on your part .. not even the most wildly optimistic NATO Pundit claims rise to the nonsense bar you have achieved.

    "Russia isn't winning anything" a nonsense unsupported generalization .. meaningless .. Russia is not losing the war either

    "Economy Shrinking - Sanctions doing their work" -- unsupported demonstrably false preposterous nonsense on the latter - Sanctions are failing quite badely at this point .. Russia selling lots of oil .. at record high prices ..

    to the former -- support this "economy shrinking claim" .. by how much ? blattering unsupported claims - not an argument for much mate.

    Then you predict the economic future .. had I a dime for every soul doing that .. be a rich man .. or to find one that could do better than 50-50 .. Energy prices going down you say .. Down to what ? 10 Bucks a barrel .. and at what level does Russia cease to be doing extremely well relative to post war economy.

    Tell me this dream of yours .. where the price of energy is going- so I can place my bets in the market - on the basis of your crystal ball.

    What is your track record in these thigns by the way ? .. such that I can have some confidence in your prediction fair wizard.

    Told you I did .. what was to transpire .. but . NO NO NO you cried .. den the words of the gifted prophet come true .. again you cry NO NO NO .. but now you tellen me YOU be da Prophet .. based on track record of dismal failure .. don tink so mon.. you be telling your tall tales elsewhere .. me not betting on your prognostication.
     
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    From your message I understand that whatever Russia will do there would be sanctions. That means that the war is just a pretext to impose sanctions. Very interesting. This is the begining of the end for the US in this case. You should better think now zoom how to use donkey urine for powering your car, because soon the price for a gallon would be 20 bucks.
     
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    Because they are aiming nuclear weapons at the U.S. (China does too which means they should be destroyed as well).
     
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    Hahahahahaha....

    You funny ....

    Only if the Mafiosi behaves...we can remove sanctions....in time...:),vis,

    "This is beginning of the end for the USA"?

    Lots have said that vis....some have tried, and paid dearly in blood and treasure. I recall reading once a certain Nikita Krushchev of USSR telling our JFK that we(meaning former USSR) will bury you?:)....how that turn out vis....you remember ?

    I think we buried the USSR in the end....and pissed on its grave?....Just like well bury Mafiosi ....and pi$$ on its grave some more....:)

    How to use "donkey urine" because gas will be $20....hardly vis....that's your wishful thinking.

    Are you still butthurt about driving 6+ hrs to Belarus to use your Mastercard or something?

    Dayum....sumbit** ...huh?

    I'm hearing Coca-Cola is leaving town in Mafialand.....jeepers...I guess you'll need to get use to samogonka...or that "kvas" that ordinary zhradniks concoct?:)

    I see Microsoft making life miserable for kolorads?

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1538426779240648704?s=20&t=KsM1k93QiegqouVmT2Uqmw

    Bright future for Mafialand.

    https://twitter.com/OrlandoB71/status/1538428319535800320?s=20&t=lYMejgZsDOPHsALDCx6wHQ

    I think it's every vatniks dream the "end" for USA....but we both know that's a pipe dream....viska....where would the oligarch zhradniks send there snot nosed brats for college....somewhere in Siberia?:)
     
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    You want to say, that the first presidents of former Soviet Union republics were US puppets that brought USSR to collapse? :grin: What a nonsense! USSR did collapse not because of America wanted it. By the way, two bombs do not fall exactly in the same place, so it is now turn of the US to collapse. With the prices for a gallon 20 USD it would be easily possible. US has a very terrible public transport, much worse than in Europe so noone will go for work, everything will stop. So...make a farm with donkeys. :grin:
     
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    No wonder he is pushing Unlucky Lukashenko into attacking Ukraine in a bid to hasten the conflict and secure an Orcish victory. He knows he has no long game.
     
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    I wouldn't trust any media outlet.

    One showed a photo of a destroyed street in Iraq because of the war, just so happened the same photo was used several years earlier in a Lebanon story.
     
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    Probably because American nuclear weapons are pointing in Russia's and China's direction
     
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    o_O....dude, what're you going on about? All I said was what Krusheva mentioned.....what bombs in the same place?....$20 gasoline?....US has marvelous public transport in cities...you dipping into the sauce or something, viska, you're rambling..."make a farm with donkeys"?.....hahahaha....hospodeh.:)
     
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    So. We can and will continue to do so. And you know full well we will stop if the Russians and Chinese had no nuclear weapons ore large conventional forces.
     
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    It's trying to work out who pointed them first.
     
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    Bwahahaha. Russia contributed less than 6% of USA oil while they do not anymore. Thus, a drop in the bucket. Prices will go back down once it stabilizes. Lets just wait and see how the Russian Economy stabalizes during the same time frame.
     
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    And yet Putin raised the incomes across the country 10% and their supermarkets are full. You figure!



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    I'm dancing now so full of glee
    to tell you that our dear country

    is selling grain and all its wheat
    and at a price that can't be beat.

    That way the nations I deem fair
    will all partake of rightful share.
    And as I'm covering all their needs
    while other lands fill up with weeds


    Then pity those for they do toil
    with neither gas nor precious oil.
    And as their empty stomach growl.

    And as their dogs will cry and howl.

    And as their limbs shake from the cold.
    I'll make my statement loud and bold.


    You should have known better you fools.

    - Jeannette

     
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    I'm selling off my bridges now that I am retired.. How many would you like to buy?
     
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    Of course, because then they would have had to succumb to the will of Washington and the World Economic forum's Great Reset where we will own nothing but be happy.

    So ya gotta be kidding? In Christianity the Great Reset and the liberal New World Order is considered the precursor to a One World Government and the Antichrist - who will be the culmination of all evil, and the enslavement of mankind.




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    When chaos reigns in West and East
    then we'll await the coming beast.

    Who'll put us all right to the test,
    by telling us that he knows best.

    And to avoid our bodily harm,
    we'll all submit without a qualm.
    Our souls he'll mark on hands and head
    to free us all from fear and dread.

    But woe to us, anguish will be

    for we had eyes, yet couldn't see.
    - Jeannette
     
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    Simple logic and common sense wouldn't hurt you know? Russia embargoed all EU goods with the first sanctions and began developing their own industries - which includes agriculture and meat. They even export meat. As for wheat, it is the largest exporter in the world, taking over the US and Canada..

    As for vegetables, most Russians raise their own in their dachas. They also have their southern regions as well as greenhouses to supply the rest of their needs. As for specialties and luxuries, they can be imported from friendly nations.
     
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    And, Russia is a perfect example of that.
     
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    Ruble today = 54.75 to the dollar.

    Ruble February 22 = 80.35 to the dollar.

    Ruble March 10 = 138.75 to the dollar.
     

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