Saudis are said to have lain in wait for Jamal Khashoggi

Theoretically, yes.
If you spend a week in jail for possession of a joint, and then it is voted legal, and now you can smoke it in front of a cop.
Prostitution is another.
Basically victimless crimes, are political.

I'll bet if I look on the web, someone's got a list.

 

Washington Post Reporter Shane Harris joins Lawrence O'Donnell with reports that Turkish officials say there are tapes proving that Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside a Saudi consulate.

 

An old story (2016) suddenly gains disturbing new relevance:

Trump registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during campaign: report
By Rebecca Savransky - 11/21/16 09:30 AM EST

President-elect Donald Trump registered eight companies during his presidential campaign that appear to be tied to hotel interests in Saudi Arabia, according to a report in The Washington Post.

Trump registered the companies in August 2015, shortly after launching his presidential bid, according to The Post.

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During a rally on August 21, the day Trump created four of those companies, he said he gets along well with Saudi Arabia.

"They buy apartments from me," Trump said during the Alabama rally. "They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

In January of this year, Trump said on Fox News he "would want to protect Saudi Arabia.

"I would want to protect Saudi Arabia," he said during the interview. "But Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically. They were making, before the oil went down ... they were making $1 billion a day.”

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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...d-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

 

No. I'm claiming there could be, that the mechanisms and facilities for mass incarcerations exist and are ready for use. That the USA has the highest rate of incarceration in the world is a known fact

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm

 

Let's see the video of the killing and then get the proof the SA Prince had something to do with it. That is how it's suppose to work as opposed to throwing around unproven accusations.

 

Apparently Turkey has the proof. Let's hope we can get to the bottom of this.

 

As it is, you do have evidence that he walked into the consulate and never came out. We are beyond accusations at this point.

 

Just for argument sake the missing journalist may have walked out a back door and slipped through a window. He has a beef with the Saudi regime and could be trying to stir up tension between the US and SA. I'm just saying. Walking into the consulate and not seen walking out is still not proof the Saudi's had anything to do with him being missing. If the Saudi's wanted him it would have been much more secretive if they had grabbed him anywhere else but the Saudi consulate in Turkey. Especially since the journalist didn't have body guards around him that I am aware of.

 

Turkey is now claiming it has proof that the Saudi's killed Khashoggi.

 

If the fiance wasn't outside waiting for him it would have been very secretive. And he doesn't look like the "slipping through a window" kind. Turkey has all of the ins and outs covered with security cameras.

 

How secretive could it have been with cameras out front? His fiancé would still have reported him missing and told authorities he went to the Saudi consulate. Does it really make sense the Saudi Prince would have had this guy nabbed at the Saudi consulate in Turkey? He could have been grabbed anywhere else but. And how exactly did they know the journalist would be a the consulate on that very day so they could schedule private planes to get an assassination team there to kill him?

 

He made an appointment to pick up papers for his marriage.

As for kidnapping him anywhere else, that would have been more of a risk of getting caught in the act and arrested.

 

They could have just poisoned him. Look at the mess the Saudi's are in now. You think taking him out at one of their consulate's wasn't risky? There's video of the journalist going in but not coming out. You think they were to stupid to know that a camera was there?

 

Sure, but do they care? The world order is suddenly devolving...Russians are assassinating political opponents on foreign soil with impunity... China kidnaps the head of Interpol... The American president sides with foreign adversaries over his own law enforcement agencies...

 

All this seems very suspicious to me.

1 - Why did Turkey assume so quickly that Khashoggi is dead, and was murdered by Saudi Arabia?

2 - Turkey said they have visual facts that it happened, but oddly enough they can't show them for security reasons.

3 - Why are propaganda sheets like CNN jumping on the bandwagon so readily?

4 - Why is Congress up in arms against Saudi Arabia, unless there is more a foot? Could it be because:

a - The king does not want to lower oil prices to compensate for the loss of Iranian oil.

b - That the kings actions are benefiting Russia and hurting the US.
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Anyway there could be other reasons as well. Washington said it will stop advising Saudi Arabia on their new tech city.

 

If the Turkish government shows evidence of torture and murder of Jamal Khashooggi by Saudi henchmen, the Saudis can complain and make a fuss and sever ties from both countries, the U.S. and Turkey. An Embassy or a Consulate is sovereign land to which each country occupies on foreign soil. To have spy cameras inside a Consulate or Embassy is in clear violation of International law as established by the Vienna Convention. Will Erdogan be willing to put himself at the center of a violation of that law?

This is Article 22 of the Vienna Convention.

Article 22
1. The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.

2. The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity.

3. The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.

Is it worth for Turkey to lose these ties and to gain enemies? Remember that Erdogan is a dictator- oligarch type of President, he doesn't need enemies and this kind of conflict becomes very expensive, in both money and military power. So, if seeking "justice" for one guy he's risking losing his control over the power he holds right now. Neither the U.S. or Turkey need or want the Saudis as an enemy. It would cost them a lot of money. It's a possibility that Jamal Khashooggi was a spy.

Erdogan is struggling to manage a teetering economy and his entanglement in war-torn Syria. “Is it possible that there is no camera system at a consulate, an embassy?” Erdogan said, according to Turkish news reports. “Is it possible there was no camera system in the Saudi Arabian Consulate where this incident happened? I mean, if a bird flies from here, a mosquito flies, those systems would capture it. And they have the most advanced ones.” and how Erdogan want's to suggest without admission of spying cameras on Syria. He can ill afford a new battle with a deep-pocketed regional power like Saudi Arabia.

 

What wisdom does the Duran have to share?

 

Here's the extent of the wisdom, in the form of a question to his staff; "It wasn't an American citizen, right?"

 

The Russians weren't stupid enough to take someone out at their own consulate in London. And why would a journalist who has spoken out against the Crown Prince not work with Turkey to create tensions between SA and the US? SA and Turkey's relationship hasn't been to good lately. Turkey says it has the proof. Let's see it before we rush to judgement.

http://www.mei.edu/content/article/saudi-turkey-ties-take-turn-worse

Saudi-Turkish relations hit a new low point this week after Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman referred to Turkey as part of a “triangle of evil” alongside Iran and Islamic extremists.

 

US oil production is at an all time high. Maybe we should drill in National Parks and off shore at Mira Lago too...However a US journalist was murdered by another of Trump's favorite murdering dictators...The US used to frown on countries led by people who murdered reporters. Trump has buddies up with three of the worst....

 

Yet. But stupid enough to kidnap and later murder a journalist in plain view in Red square last year.

He could have done that with his journalism, without abandoning his family and home and entire life. Come on, you're saying silly things.

 

That's the Dunce I was asking about one of Jenny's favorite sources of fake news. Looks like they're not on the Saudi side.

http://theduran.com/the-killing-of-...-could-spell-the-end-for-mohammad-bin-salman/

The Killing of Saudi Journalist Khashoggi Could Spell the End for Mohammad bin Salman
The death of famous journalist Saudita Jamal Khashoggi is likely to have important repercussions, revealing the hypocrisy of the mainstream media, tensions inside the Saudi regime, and the double standards of Western countries.

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And anyway, this whole notion of energy Independence is absurd. Are oil companies are not nationalized. They will continue to sell to whomever pays them the most for the oil. Our companies already both export and import petroleum products.

 

I wonder if Trump's troll brigade would care to comment on their dear leader's statements about this. Do they buy his line about not wanting Russia and China to get arms deals with that stupid little oil-rich country? Can they even defend this low-life's obvious disregard for human rights over bare economic concerns? Can they resist deflecting to the usual "but Obama!" or "but Hillary!" dünger?

This is one the Dunce's greatest crises to date, and he is showing us that he is far, FAR from being leadership material. He is only good at being a celebrity and a hussler.

 

You're accusing SA of murdering someone without a body to show for it. So who is saying silly things? Have you seen proof of his murder? And why didn't his fiancee go into the consulate with him? Instead she stays outside and just happens to walk in an area where the camera records her.