Saudis are said to have lain in wait for Jamal Khashoggi

Actually,I find it likely, based on the circumstantial evidence. Because it is. When you invent wild explanations, you only serve to make the simplest, most apparent explanation more appealing.

Uh...because he was supposed to be right back out? Compare that obvious, simple exanation to your wild ideas. And you just accused her of knowing where the Turkish government hides their cameras...so apparently you aren't all that averse to unproved accusations, though yours are a bit on the goofy side.

 

You just can't wait for an investigation. You already have this whole thing solved. How silly. Now the Turks claim that have the proof from the guys Apple watch. You think maybe the Turks should invite the FBI to help investigate? Do you think they will?

 

Of course I can, and will. Nevertheless, I currently find it likely that the Saudis murdered this man.

I don't know if the FBI will investigate. Then again, they don't have to travel to Turkey to watch a video, now do they?

 

Not many, other than the Washington Post, are associating the death of Jamal Khashoggi with the rise of authoritarianism and despotism around the world and the silencing of the free press. A few days after Jamal Khashoggi went missing after entering the Saudi Consulate in Turkey, Bulgarian journalist and investigative reporter Viktoria Marinova was raped and murdered in Ruse, Bulgaria, becoming the third journalist to be killed in the EU in the past 12 months. Freedom of the press is absolutely essential to any democracy, no matter where in the world it is. Once the press is demonized as 'enemies of the people' it opens the door for assault and murders of journalists, and truths are hidden.

Bulgarian authorities are investigating the rape and murder of an investigative reporter in the northern city of Ruse, the third journalist to have been killed in the EU in the past year.
The body of 30-year-old Viktoria Marinova, who worked for broadcaster TVN, was found on Saturday near a pedestrian alley in an area with heavy vegetation, Bulgarian state media reported.
Preliminary investigations showed the cause of death was blows to the head and suffocation.
Bulgarian Interior Minister Mladen Marinov described the murder as "exceptionally brutal" and said Marinova was raped before she was killed, according to state media. He said the country's top murder investigators had been sent to Ruse to work on the case. A friend of Marinova, Todor Gechev, told reporters from Bulgarian National Television (BNT) that he met with her on Wednesday. She told him she was working on a journalistic investigation but didn't feel worried about her safety and had not received threats.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/08/europe/bulgaria-journalist-murder-intl/index.html

 

Video's can't be faked? Interesting how the journalist just happen to record his visit to the consulate. People could be questioned at the consulate by the FBI. Since the Trump's are so friendly with the Saudi's that shouldn't be a problem right?

 

Sure,just like moon landings.

Listen to yourself.

Yeah, let's mobilize the FBI to investigate, just for you, so that you can claim a vast conspiracy, when their conclusions do not suit your nonsense.

 

And you're willing to trust Turkey and SA to do the investigation of a journalist who is almost a US citizen and has family who are US citizens?

 

Regarding Roy Moore and his multiple accusations of sexual misconduct - Trump comment: "he said he didn't do it"

Regarding Brett Kavanaugh and the accusation of sexual assault - Trump comment: "he said he didn't do it and I believe him."

Regarding Saudi Arabia murdering Jamal Khashoggi might follow the same pattern by saying "I spoke with the Crown Prince and he said they didn't do it."

Okay well.....that's it I guess, problem solved, nobody did anything.

 

Maybe, maybe not. We can't do much, without turkey's invitation. But I can say, with certainty , that not having our own people in no way lends truth to any of the wild ideas you have tossed out.

 

Trump is a g0ddamn embarrassment..

 

Would it not be in Turkey's best interest to invite the FBI to help out? I may sound silly but your preconceived judgement that SA murdered a man inside their own consulate without actually having the facts other than what you've been told by MSM as told to them by Turkey's regime is down right scary IMO. Good night.

 

Excuse you...I said it was likely, based on the circumstantial evidence, an argument you never once bothered to take on (because I am right, and you know it). Second, the evidence comes from many sources, not just your fantasy msm.

Lastly, you are the one tossing wild theories and making extraordinary claims without a shred of evidence, circumstantial or othewirse. This clearly indicates that you are the brainwashed individual who has taken leave of reason and incredulity.

When people like you have dreams, do they resemble reality, in contrast to your waking thoughts?

Good night.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-1433170798

I deleted the text of this website's report about the disappearance of Khashoggi because I've done more research on this website and found that the 'Middle East Eye' is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood a.k.a. terrorist and rebel supporters they're like the Iron Bank of GoT for terrorists this site is totally biased towards the journalists since they sponsored him.

 

The FBI investigating this would not only be illegal, out of legislation, but it would be plain stupid and not productive at all because it's really none of their business. The U.S. can't just impose foreign authority on sovereign countries/citizens. Turkey doesn't have any kind of "moral high ground" on this as they disappear and kill a lot of dissidents themselves. After the so-called 'coup d'etat' attempt in 2016, Edrogan murdered many of his generals, jailed half of police corps, congress people, business people and religious leaders, so Turkey can't really demand anything here almost nobody can do anything here and they should not. Anyway media is making Jamal Khashoggi a hero, and this guy is no hero, he's not innocent. He was a shady person, that had his time counted, that's all.

Breaking news is that the Turkish newspaper reports that Khashoggi may have recorded his own death via his Apple watch.

 

Hey, He Wasn't A Citizen, Right?

JFC. It's time to IMPEACH this retarded con man who could only fool the most dumbed-down human beings on planet earth, i.e. American conservatives.

 

Actually, his exact words were "IT was not a citizen, right?" Trump didn't even designate this Saudi man as a human being.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to find that Trump OKed the torture and murder of the WP journalist by his Saudi buddies. He has made it clear that he hates the free press here in America and he has sucked up to other leaders who routinely kill journalists like Putin and Kim....

 

I think at worst, he knew and chose to look the other way, probably believing that an arrest rather than a murder was in the works. At any rate, it's clear that he has a personal stake in Saudi Arabia and is likely therefore personally biased. As with Russia, he has long been obtaining or pursuing deals and money from Saudi Arabia in connection with his hotel business. I saw that they supposedly paid some of his debts from some casinos that didn't work out for him.

Given what we have so far, all Trump and his allies can count on is Americans' short attention spans and capacity for doublethink. His cap-wearing cult will by and large never waver. Trump is their new messiah and nothing could change that. But this is bound to further sour the mood of a lot of voters this coming election day. The timing of this thing is remarkable, as well as the brazenness of the move. It seems extraordinary that the Saudis would have gone ahead with it, and in this fashion. Why didn't they just haul him away back to Saudi Arabia, as the talk apparently was indicating? Why go to this extreme? Makes me wonder what all might be behind it.

 

Donald Trump and wife Ivanka on the yacht he bought from an uncle of Jamal Khashoggi - the Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.



It's a small world.

https://www.26northyachts.com/news/a-peek-inside-donald-trumps-former-yacht/
https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1989/09/dunne198909

I wonder if the Saudis consider their luxury yachts also to be "Saudi sovereign territory", where they can murder whomsoever they like when they like?

I wonder how many luxury yachts the Saudis will be able to afford if the President orders the US Navy to seize every newly refilled Saudi oil tanker to sell them off to the highest bidder?

If we take their oil and cream off most of the profits of the sale, we don't have to sell the Saudis anything!

This oil tanker had Condi's name on it ..



... and so should all the "Saudi" oil tankers too!

 

Sounds like a good start and it would kill two birds with one stone. NEXT ... do the same to Israel. GAME OVER!

 

Thanks.
I'm not sure what your beef with NATO is? That's Condi's too.

Don't be silly. Israel is an ally.

 

I dislike Rice thoroughly. Don't tell me she has an ounce of sense and honesty? Every war we have seen lately has been concocted, encouraged, supported, funded, and initiated by the U.S. via NATO.

The Arabs are smarter than I ever thought could be possible. They have said all along that Israel has the U.S. by the balls .... and it is being proven on a day to day basis that they are right.

 

Here's some good advice for you and many others. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear. Where's the proof Turkey claims to have? I find it incredible knowing Erdogan's recent strong armed actions in Turkey that anyone would take his word for anything.

 

The FBI has been invited many times to other countries to help out with investigations, so it is not illegal. The FBI is usually invited if a US citizen or someone with US families is involved in a possible crime.

 

Trump vows severe punishment for Saudi Arabia if found guilty of killing a Saudi journalist.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...arabia-if-khashoggi-was-killed-idUSKCN1MN0HJ?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said in a CBS interview on Saturday that there would be “severe punishment” for Saudi Arabia if it turns out that missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.