Saving the Arctic

Nice to see them trying to bring some natural law and order to a region where environmental terrorism is being perpetrated. Hope your friend makes it through this challenge alive and well but I guess if you are going to make a sacrifice this is a good one. Saving the planet is no small potatoes.

 

How would blowing up the rig (see the OP) and actually causing the environmental disaster they are warning about actually serve their cause ? Unless of course their real cause was something else entirely. The anti capitalist cause springs to mind amongst many other of their pro anarchist anti human ones

 

When did Greenpeace ever blow up anything? A discussion is just that, a discussion. It's the drillers who are risking a fragile arctic environment with their violence. The typical denialist response is to shriek about some anti-capitalist conspiracy. These folks are shameless in diverting the conversation.

 

Their own founder Patrick Moore left it in 1986 because he said extremism had taken over and it is now more anti human than pro Earth. He did so when they decided to demonize Chlorine. A substance known to counter the mass epidemics of Typhus and Cholera in the third world ! Greenpeace now just hate you and want you gone ... period

 

The problem with Patrick Moore is not that he has some understandable differences with Greenpeace; it's that he has become a shill for various corporate interests even to the point of questioning the reality of AGW. More specifically in the shilling department we have this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

 

Your post proves the point.

Anti coperate not pro environment.

 

So genuflecting to any corporation for any reason is all right with you. And in that regard Patrick Moore can do no wrong because of past environmental credentials..

 

What im saying is that your own words shows that yoy aren't pro environment you are anti coperate. Nothing in your post said anything about the environment. It was all anti coperate. You dont care about the environment at all.

 

I see, if I don't use the word environment in any sentence I'm anti-environment. Sounds a bit logically weak even for a denialist.

As for Patrick Moore he is a sad case of a good guy gone bad, it appears. It happens to the best of them. We are after all psychologically fragile creatures.

 

According to you because he does work for cooperations. Your reasoning proves you arent pro environment. You are anti coperate.

 

the Russians may be eco-terrorists.............maybe they should be crucified right along side of their detractors

 

pssssssssssst that would be coporate, not coperate

 

That's not what I said but I'll assume that your denialist ideology requires you to believe that.

 

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So,how ya gonna fix the stuff that happens every 3500 years? Tax it away? 3500 years ago what happened to the Sahara rain forest? Man surely didn't cause that, did they?

 

What you said is the he worked for a corporation there was nothing in your post that even came close to identifying an environmental issue. You conflate pro environment and anti coporate as one in the same because you have always been anti corporate not pro environment. The environment has always been just a tool to advance your economic agenda.

 

You guys live in a denialist bubble so of course you simply make up your own reality. I suggest you deal with matters of substance and not spend your time fantasizing where I am coming from. You don't have a clue.

 

I think I know quite well where you are coming from. You conflate anti corporate ideology and environmentalism as one in the same. You think that because he did contracting work for a corporation he cant be an environmentalist. You prove his point about the environmental movement being hijacked by luddites and communists.

 

Oil companies don't like to hire idiots, so by extension no, they don't allow those types on their platforms. It is too easy as it is to get killed in the oil field, the last thing anyone needs are crackpots who WANT that type of action to happen, and are dumb enough to cause it even without trying hard.

 

I sure am glad to hear from you on this issue.

You are absolutely correct........

 

Getting back to the OP . The very fact that two of these 'protesters' were considering blowing up the rig thereby causing the very problem they claim to be protesting about would suggest anti corporatist motivations are by far the greater ones here. These people are just anarchists hiding behind a green flag nothing more. I hope the Russians deal with these nuts with extreme prejudice

 

If they wanted to protest.. they should have done so in front of the Russian Embassy.

They should have been shot trying to board the drilling platform.

 

Interesting how so many folks value book clicking sycophancy toward any corporation or government rather than any concern for saving the earth from going to hell. Funny where folks get their sense of security. They get it from lining up with the environmental outlaws, the Al Capones of the planet.

 

There we go again another anti corporate rant. Do you care at all about the environment?

 

These twerps should have been protesting at the Russian embassy NOT boarding a drilling platform. Do you get stupid?

 

What's wrong with boarding a platform? It gets more publicity and makes the point more emphatically. Of course the boot clickers always think the bigger outlaws are the resistors not the planet destroyers. They kind of teeth on anything large and powerful is good and legitimate. Strange how that is.