Should mothers be required by law to bury their fetuses?

and what scientific evidence do you have that proves a fetus isn't a human? or are you one of those back woods uneducated science deniers

 

Cool thing about this (and Anders banned post, too)....it reveals the TRUE NATURE of many of the "pro-lifers" (mostly male)...


and how they dream their little misogynistic "Scarlet Letter" fantasies about women.

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He said a fetus isn't a "baby"....is it?

 

that unborn baby. he or she is a human and we have what is called human rights or unless you want to create a second classification of what is human like they did with slaves calling them human but denying their right to be treated as any other human

and by the way when have you ever went to a fetus shower or have you ever asked a women when he fetus due date was? the unborn has been referred to as a baby as far back as recorded history

 

1. Is a fetus a "baby"? Yes or no? Next question will be "Is a human ovum one second after fertilization a "bab'y"? Yes or no? (I expect no direct answers from you.)

2. "Pro-lifers" want to make women slaves to fetuses. Name one right, except saving her own life, where you would say the woman has superior rights over the fetus?

 

LOL, it is not me that does not understand science or the meaning of words, having human DNA does not make one a person or a baby, my toenail has human DNA but when I clip it I am not throwing away a human. It requires a brain to be a person/baby, no brain = no person, that is unless that what makes up YOU as a person resides in a different place in your body, I am located in my brain and that is what defines me as a Person. Reality bites doesn't it, enjoy.

 

are you one of those back woods uneducated science deniers ?

Words that are used in common society have nothing to do with science. A fetus is not a "baby" according to science ....

 

because science use more then just an individuals DNA to classify that individual they also use a factor of that individual having the same DNA but distinguishable from the mother and father. your toe nail does not it has the same exact DNA as you. a human a baby doesn't it has it own unique DNA

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its called human rights.

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but according to science that unborn baby is human by every scientific measure

 

THIS is what I posted : """"Words that are used in common society have nothing to do with science. A fetus is not a "baby" according to science ...."""


I NEVER said it wasn't human......see how you HAVE to twist things to suit your agenda instead of using facts!!!!!

 

I see you IGNORE that fact that without a brain you cannot be a Person or Baby, typical of some to ignore all the facts when they are presented and it means you are not qualified to speak on science, those that understand science know that one must accept all the scientific facts not just those that agree with their point of view.

 

No, they should not be required to bury them. We wouldn't want to make them feel bad about murdering their unborn, defenseless offspring.

I think that abortion should be legal, as it is now, but they also get their tubes tied with the abortion. We will give them one murder, free, but only one. Since obviously they were not responsible enough to use birth control, we cannot trust them to use it the next time. So we make em sterile, so as to stop any future murder for convenience. For a human life has more intrinsic value than the right to be irresponsible.

 

So you feel that everyone should be allowed one murder.

 

Does that mean we should all be working on our list of who we want on the topic of our list, or am I jumping the gun here, LOL.

I think IF the pro-lifers ever ban abortion completely they should all be required to take in the unwanted babies that women are forced to have, no limits, you wanted them, you got them, oh and they have to pay for the birth, having a baby is not free you know.

 

There is no way of knowing what type of burial the fetus desired, so in most cases they are cremated; you could require that the parent have the option of deciding on what type--if any--funeral arrangements the fetus might have.

 

Great suggestion but scary for the kids....anti-abortion people only like fetuses, not actual children.

That posters suggestion of allowing one murder shows how little he really cares about murder. That was an idiotic statement but he doesn't know it

 

Well as the vast majority of abortions are done prior to 12 weeks, there aint going to be much to see .. but of course your fixation is on later term abortion which anybody with a brain cell knows are not elective and as such you just want a woman to go through even more pain and anguish by forcing her to view what was more than likely a wanted pregnancy.

 

Nope a fetus is human (adjective) not A human (noun) you really should learn the difference.

 

Actually we classify a species by taxonomy .. guess what a fetus, especially in it's earliest stages does not meet the classification.

Furthermore IF the fetus is a separate unique human being (person) then it HAS to gain individual and separate consent to impose pregnancy onto a woman.

furthermore again .. I suggest you look up chimera twins, two separate individual DNA's existing within a single body .. hmm is the submissive chimera also a separate person, by your logic it is, and as such any attempt to remove the submissive twin is violating it's human rights. When are you and other pro-lifers going to start calling people who have operations to remove the submissive chimera twin murderers?

or is it more the reality that you and other pro-lifers don't look upon a chimera twin as a person even though it meets your arbitrary justifications.

 

No one is disputing that a fetus is human (adj), what is in dispute is if a fetus is A human (noun) .. pro-lifers have this comprehension problem with that and regularly transpose the adjective and noun thinking they mean the same thing, just as you have done above.

 

You have no idea of what defenseless means, a fetus is not defenseless, if it was it would be rejected by the females body.

Same goes for any male with more than one child outside of marriage then one must assume .. unless of course you are not for equality?

44% of unintended pregnancies are caused when contraception has been used and failed, problem is that the safest methods are the ones that cost the most and of course right wing pro-lifers don't think a life is worth $800 (the cost of an IUD) even though over the ten year life span of an IUD it actually costs less than 10 years worth of condoms AND the cost of welfare to bring up the child pro-lifers want to force a woman to have.

It is really amazing how pro-lifers fire off these sound-bites without even bothering to do the research.

a life only has as much value as another places upon it.

 

It is like control issues combined with ignorance and religion or some combination of the three. Then you have the hypocrisy of these folks claiming to be the ones that want to uphold the constitution - individual rights, liberty, freedom.

 

I see you ran off but this will follow you. You call abortion murder, which you go on to say everyone should have at least one indicating you can't think murder is too bad since you want to allow everyone to have at least one....can you see what a ridiculous argument that is? You indicate the only punishment for murder is sterilization....you must not think murder is that bad if that's the only punishment murderers should have. If YOU murder someone should you be sterilized?


Are you embarrassed after realizing what a ridiculous idea you had???

Abortion is not murder and there is NO way you can prove it is, your little say-so just doesn't count.

 

You didn't answer my question, except for (maybe) saving her own life, tell me ANY instance where you would say the woman should have superior rights over the rights you want to grant to a fetus?

 

will they get to collect life insurance on their death?

 

some are not noticeable as anything more then blood, there are so many natural abortions every year(miscarriages) that a law like this would be crazy

 

never read in any scientific journal, text book or study that ever said having a brain was a prerequisite to being a human can you please provide a source to that prerequisite

so I guess none of these are human
Child born without a brain is now six years old
http://www.boston.com/community/mom..._born_without_a_brain_is_now_6_years_old.html

Nickolas Coke – Baby With No Brain Dies At Age 3
http://www.vyperlook.com/amazing-in...aby-with-no-brain-dies-at-age-3#ixzz3JkJkrNHW