disagree, if one walking down the street drunk waving their gun, it should be removed immediately, why, because they're a threat... same with joining a terrorist group you have a right to free speech too, but you can threaten to kill someone you have a right to religious freedom too, but you can't stone someone there are limits to such freedoms but at least your consistent saying that you support Muslims having ar-15's after it's discovered they have joined a terrorist group... I just disagree
The problem is, you want to define who the terrorists are.. I don't trust the government to do that inside America. The government has already shown it cannot be trusted to make such determinations.
they would have to actively be part of a group that has committed terrorist acts and is listed as a terrorist group by the government if a mass murder happened and the cops knew the killer was part of a terrorist group before hand, but their hands were tied to prevent it, that would be sad
Free medical care will do nothing to address individuals who hold absolutely no value for human life, and who do not see a problem with murdering one another.
Why not? The united states federal government has already held human lives hold next to no value whatsoever. This statement was made with the taxation of tobacco-related products, which do absolutely nothing but cause death and illness for everyone, yet remain legal so long as the government collects its few cents of tax on the sale.
Cops exist to catch criminals and turn them over to be prosecuted and punished if found guilty. They are not there to prevent crime. Preventing crime requires the assumption of guilt which is unconstitutional.
No but the government of San Francisco did and they only recinded it because of kick back. It's what the progressives want. And why calling people terrorists before they commit a crime is unconstitutional and why such actions as you support are so repugnant to some of us. If progressives got power they'd call every gun owner a terrorist and try to lock us all up. That is what they want.
Are there currently any domestic terror groups officially recognized as such by the United States government?
"Dept. of Homeland Security Names White Supremacy a Domestic Terrorist Threat" https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...e-supremacy-domestic-terrorism-threat-888748/
Calling something a threat is not the same as identifying specific groups. You said: they would have to actively be part of a group that has committed terrorist acts and is listed as a terrorist group by the government So can you name a single domestic group that has committed terrorist acts who has active members and is listed by the government as a terrorist group? Can you identify a single person or specific group that would meet your criteria to have their guns confiscated?
Oh Rolling Stone, another discredited source of information and quoting the SPLC further reduces what little credibility they might have had. And by the way, what is wrong with White Supremacy as long as one is not advocating violence? In many ways whites are supreme to other races in the U.S.
You might notice in the actual document being referenced the term White Supremacy is not mentioned at all, as such I'm calling BS on the Rolling Stone article. https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/f...rk-countering-terrorism-targeted-violence.pdf
In the larger picture thats a drop in the bucket compared to the number of lives saved by law abiding people having access to firearms.
