Sinking US aircraft carriers will resolve tension in South China Sea, says Chinese admiral

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    that'll hold true until the last of us baby boomers are gone... afterwards, all bets are off
     
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    I'm just trying to get a clear standard. Is cutting and running something only "snowflakes" do?
     
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    Again historically accurate and again I have to wonder the same thing the Chinese Admiral wonders. Is this new breed in charge and their voters that put them in charge the beginning of a new America that can be pushed around? I expect we will be tested soon. Probably not on the scale this admiral is postulating but tested none the less. The world smells weakness and is beginning to circle like sharks.
     
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    silly lawsuits & blockades could slow response, it'd be up the the commanders to decide whats best for the country and to take action without direct orders, as was the case in the past, at first sinking our subs be 'running silent', leaving those commanders to think & act on their own...
     
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    Was America weak in 1941? The Japanese thought we were a nation of "snowflakes" then too.
     
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    Equating the situation in long term overseas conflicts and strategig decisions made to how we would react to an overt attack on our country is nothing more than obfuscation and a red herring defelection attempt. If derailing the thread is your intent it will fail and this is my last comment on your effort to do so.
     
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    Actually they didn't as per the famous quote,
    "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

    Notice the difference between that Japanese admiral and this Chinese one?

    The world is now wondering if we are a paper tiger not a sleeping giant.
     
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    If 5k to 10k casualties will make "snowflakes" cut and run, how massive a snowflake do you have to be to cut and run in the face of 5 casualties like Trump is doing in Syria?
     
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    Yeah, you realize Yamamoto was considered an extreme minority opinion among the Japanese military leadership right?
     
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    Yes, and the Dems threw a massive temper tantrum when Trump lifted the transgender regs.
     
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    No I don't and I also don't have any evidence they doubted the resolve of the US. They did however feel if they destroyed our entire naval fleet we would be impotent in opposing them in their overseas conquest and they knew our standing military was abysmally unprepared. What surprised them was not our resolve but our ability to build a new navy Navy and an entire military machine with such rapidity.
     
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    Please, what nonsense and you put this 1 day after the new House is sworn in. A year ago it was all "we have a tough president now, no one will F**k with us now like they did with Obama" (which wasn't true by the way).
    This has nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with the current insane CIC.
     
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    If you think foreign powers are not looking closely at new faces like Cortez and licking their chops at the sight of easy prey you are mistaken
     
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    I'm wondering how much of the Japanese military and political leadership wondered if our policy (which we adopted) of "Germany first" might actually become "Germany only".
     
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    Some argue that congress's ability to declare war has nothing to do with the actual fighting of the war, it has to do with allowing them to support it.

    The president is solely responsible for deciding who and when we fight and it is up to congress whether to support it or not.

    This means that the president does not need a declaration of war to go to battle only to continue the battle.

    At least according to original intent.

    Its really irrelevant now with the War Powers Act.
     
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    They didn't destroy our entire Navy. They didn't even destroy a quarter of it. The Japanese goal of Pearl Harbor was to shock the "weak Americans" so much that we would cut and run in a Trumpesque manner.
     
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    Pretty much what I've been saying. The president can send troops to war but congress can bring them home by not funding that war.
     
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    Ho Chi Minh was 100% correct about the French and 100% correct about the USA. Hanoi was the victor twice.

    It's more complicated than that of course, but Hanoi was the victor twice. The whole world except the USA knows that Hanoi defeated the USA in the American War.
     
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    Yes, the millions of dead Vietnamese killed by our military definitely showed our military didn't have the stomach to fight in Vietnam.
     
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    I should have been more specific and said Pacific Fleet and it was only our good luck they didn't destroy all of it but that was their intent or as close as they could get to that.
     
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    We were defeated at home not on the battlefield and I think that's what this Chinese Admiral thinks he can bank on.
     
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    We had some nutty presidents. That's why the USA lost.

    But once the reality of defeat is understood, that is, the cause being political idiot overseers -- that cause doesn't matter so much. Defeat is defeat.

    Stop limited perpetual war.
     
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    And there is no logic in the Japanese attack unless you understand that the Japanese high command believed that the Pearl Harbor strike would so scare the weak Americans that we would immediately sue for peace.
     
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    Our military did but our politicians and the people that elected them didn't just as this Chinese Admiral is thinking would happen now.
     
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    Logic was a crippling blow to our Pacific fleet and I gave you the famous quote from the Japanese admiral on our percieved resolve at that time
     
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