Oh, I pretty much stayed on topic I started - that Soros lied about Putin where I pointed at that, that Russian nation can pretty much deal with it's governmental problems on it's own, and that if you deny the norms ad laws set by United Nations you have no place among the United Nations. It was you, who kept desperately trying to excuse one after another - leading conversation astray from me pointing at Soros making falce statements. You did this - and when understood that I am indomitable - decided to play 'naiveness' card and tried dashing off. Pa-the-tic.
your right. Id like to apologize and ask you directly a question i assumed i knew the answer to, which may have been incorrect. Its up to you to choose if you want to answer it, but i am asking so i have a better understanding of your pov. Given that you are Russian, you clearly have a better understanding of Putin than i do- so what do you think of the man and the way he governs?
In my personal opinion - personal, I insist - he got old and he got spoiled. At beginning of his career he was, more or less, efficient administrator - government has been solving country's issues - this is where his popularity came from. He actually was working for it. Key word being 'was'. Problems, that cross these efforts and achievments, are numerous. From failed foreign policies to flourished corruption whithin country. The stabilization of currency during his first years in office got negated now, unemployment started rising again, and demographics beginning to fall again, again we are facing hostilities from neighbouring countries, our army still consists mostly from 18-20 years old conscripts, who basically do the only thing they good for - give excuses for high military budget and build ****. The change from soviet system of education towards one created by Bologna Process became a complete disaster with tests preparations taking time that before was used for giving students education, not to mention how impersonal and generally glitchy that process is, with questions more often than not being too vague, or even containing direct mistakes, and it, along with public healthcare, suffer from constant lack of governmental funding. Nor wages, nor pensions got indexated yet after collapse of currency in 2014, while prices - since we live in market economy now - have risen two to three times, and keep rising. In my opinion - that is not a result of efficient work of government, being it the Ministers Cabinet, that is formed by president, or Duma - our parlament - that is still has certain influence from the president - or being it president himself. Again, he is pretty careful with his statements, that is a point where he deserves a credit - but words are not enough to solve problems, when it comes to issues of corruption, forming state budget, solving crizis situations or threading foreign policies. I dislike his decidion of enlarging presidental term from four years to six. It is not illegal, to issue such change in constitution, but it still rather serves to give him two more years in the office, rather than anything else. Even if that is technically legal, this does not brings him any popularity or respect. He got old, his time is running out, and I frankly do not know, what he is going to do after his term ends. He ruined the reputation he created himself, maybe that is justified in his eyes, but for the country basically he and "Russia United" either did equal amount of good and bad, or even bringed more of a harm, than good. So personally I dislike him. I dislike how sloppy the government got, how unefficient in became, how we again face constant issues, I dislike that country is threatened. Not because it is his fault, I do not care, if that is his fault, or not - he is a president, a head administrator of government, he is a man whose each hour of life, spent in office, is dedicated to seeing the bigger picture - supervising decidions of Duma, Cabinet of Ministers, and Federationa Council - making sure that they efficient, that they stay in line and do their job. And he spent a whole mindblowing SIXSTEEN years in that office..! Directly, as a president, or in position of advicer and first assistance, while been a prime minister - he spent enormous amount of time in his position, and will even spend almost a two more years before the next elections. He, if he would have been as dedicated as at beginning of career, if he would have been working his ass off this whole time - would have been: a) dead from exhaustion by now; and b) would've been a ****ing national hero. ...but instead we have what we have - economic, political, and geopolitical crisis, flourished corruption and lots, lots of disappointed citizens across all of country. Basically, he had a splendid opportunity to work for the good of the country, but at the end of the day he failed to do so. That is a disappontment. That is a failure. That is a mess. A mess, that I - not him - will live in and will be solving. Even if after his retirement he stays in the country - and I sure he does not - he will keep using his connections to prevent any sort of investigation of his work, of the crimes against human rights he constantly gets accused of - oh, I assure you, MANY of these accusations are false. He is way no the only man in the government, that is capable of hiring thugs, threating people with violence into silence, or even indirectly commiting a murder by hands of an assassin or hired thug. But there are questionabe actions, and after his term expires, and he gets relieved from his duties and privileges, obviously people will be trying to press charges against him, and not just whithin the Federation, but abroad too. If he stays in country - he will become a parasite on body of governing administration, and likely go down with a scandal. Maybe with a whole political disaster. So this is my personal opinion - he lost his credibility, his office lost it's achievements, and his life is likely turned into a mess - of a scale that potentially endangers country's future political life. I dislike that. I dislike that very, very much. I do not like people, who fail me. And he sure did, I do not pay taxes to receive broken roads, broken public healthcare, and geopolitical crisis. But he - at the moment - is president of my country. His words right now do matter, and his actions do too. And they will for almost a two more years - regardless if I like it, or not. I am sincerely sure, that revolution, or a coup, would only ruin my country and expose my nation to any sort of vile intent from abroad. I do not wish that for my country, so I will be standing for democracy - even if that means I have to live with inefficient government. We created the rules - they will not protect us later, if we deny them now.
As a general rule, WAYNE MADSEN is not really a good primary source of information, he is like Glen Greenwald, who reports some things that are newsworthy, ( I posted an article by each author in my entire life only once because they aren't good journalists ). Wayne, like Glen, has a way of polarizing issues or framing them in a "us versus them" way, and likes to include lots of intentionally planted disinformation. Take these examples: WAYNE MADSEN - "Orban has accused Soros of masterminding the migrant invasion of Europe." Nice way to amplify the Elites divide and conquer strategy, Wayne Madsen ! pit whites vs. blacks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Now - EVERYONE KNOWS Democracy Now is funded by Globalist NWO foundations like George Soros, and Ford Foundation CIA warmonger crooks. FACT: Democracy Now is government establishment financed astroturf fake news (you get that don't you Merwen ?) Now - the crooked Greenwald says he thinks Trump is evil and should be obstructed from governing, while at the same time, hyping his obviously already exposed 'deep state' plot. But Greenwald also seeks to amplify the Elites divide and conquer strategy, pit whites vs. blacks, noting Trumps immigration exec. order (ps.) Greenwalds Interept is financed by covert ops Globalist Pierre Omidyar who helped finance the CIA Ukraine coup Here is Glen Greenwald on the Trump coup by CIA or what he calls 'the Deep State': Greenwald: Empowering the "Deep State" to Undermine Trump is Prescription for Destroying Democracy "Now, I happen to think that the Trump presidency is extremely dangerous. You just listed off in your news—in your newscast that led the show, many reasons. They want to dismantle the environment. They want to eliminate the safety net. They want to empower billionaires. They want to enact bigoted policies against Muslims and immigrants and so many others. And it is important to resist them." ( edit ) "We ought to have a serious, sober, structured investigation of the claims that Russia hacked the DNC and John Podesta’s emails and that there were improper ties between Donald Trump and the Russians, and that ought to be made public so that we can see the information." https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/16/greenwald_empowering_the_deep_state_to
There's better sources and research about Globalist NWO regime change and fake news Liberal / Progressive financier George Soros. They're better because unlike Madsens piece, they don't amplify the Elites divide and conquer strategy, like immigration. You see the whole Democrat strategy for years is to brainwash Americans by labelling Trump a racist - he is not.
Maybe if you all don't want Putin in two years you could send him over here and Truimp could put him up in one of his hotels!!!!!!!! Seriously, though--how much of your assessment might be due to the "sanctions" from the US? I don't understand what the sanctions are composed of, but wouldn't they have caused Putin difficulty? Do you honestly believe Putin should have just rolled over and allowed the loss of your naval base in the Crimea? What really were the international mistakes you think he made? China?
although i disagree with you on a variety of topics, i totally misjudged you. How american of me to snap judge you based on a few sentences. It is remarkable how similair our societies are regarding their shortcomings. I truly believe the two nations are only comparable to eachother. I read a book by russian chess champion Gary Kasparov called winter is coming, detailing Putins rise to power related to his USSR KGB ties. I view him to be a holdover from the cold war- which never really ended, in my eyes- and there are plenty of USA politicians who are exactly the same. Its a shame we use entire nations of people to fight eachother, and it will only end once there is common sense in both governments. I dont forsee that happening in this decade. Oil is just too valuable, and until cheap efficient energy can be safely produced everywhere, the imperialists will reign- out of necessity. I think one of the coolest things in this world is space exploration, where we both work together.
They did, just before them - we had same problems, aka low wages, the reformation of education system, corruption and uneffectivity of government... But after sanctions country entered an economic crisis due to collapse of currency - and it all escalated. Wages became two, three times lower in relation to prices, AND if before incidents of wages being payed with delay been relatively rare, now they became a norm. Delayed wages, not payed wages, people working in some cases for MONTHS without being paid. Usually it ends with bancruptcy of the enterprise they were working for and yet another small factory or company vanishing from the markets, leaving a few hundred or thousand unemployed people whith serious lack of money. Sanctions rather gave people feeling of being antagonized by rest of the world, gave us feeling... Being under a sort of slow genocide. Sure, nobody got directly killed by sanctions. We just got couple more percents of people dying from alcoholism, depressions, suicides and starvation. First of all, I sincerely believe our government was too soft on ukrainian in question of gas and oil debts. From what I know, there may be a billions of dollars of debt Ukraine owes to RF. While Putin used that debt as leverage in geopolitics, I think it should've been just presented to international court of justice - considering repeating rejections of Ukraine to pay the growing debt for natural resourcesof Russia that they were acquiring in a price lower than average for market. This issue been present for almost a ten years, if I recall correctly - it is not something that happened early in reaction of Crimea. It really an old issue. As for naval base in Crimea - if we can rent the Baikonur launching pad in Kazakhstan for our space program, we sure could've been renting the naval base. I am afraid, it really was not the case of keeping a naval base, but a geopolitical decidion. I sincerely believe that people in Crimea voted on referendum and pretty much welcome it's results - it is not first time when people in Ukraine show interest in autonomy or independance, and aside from russians and crimean tatars that live in Crimea such moods had hungarians in Zakarpatie and poles in Lwow. But decidion backfired when it comes to Luhansk and Donetsk. I do not speak of geopolitical reaction - it was expected, that he sure knew - though I definitely dislike to facing that reaction MYSELF while he safely keeps living his life of luxury. I mean the good of people, and propaganda aside - life in Crimea did not changed much, generally people are safe, with no military action going there - while in Luhansk and Donetsk we have a war zone. Either Putin should've moved military there to secure safety of people. Instead we got ukrainian military arriving there in middle of coup going in country, and along with them - armed cretins from all over Ukraine, with various banners, who joyfully started 'fighting for their sovereignity/independence', while people in L. and D., who actually just performed a peaceful referendums, got a literal war breaking in their homectities and around them. I consider that being a great mistake both for Putin - who was able to precent this mess - without that much changing in the world, with same ressophobia going on; - and a mistake for Turchinov and Poroshenko - one of which acted like a freaking dictator, sending military against civilians - and other is still reluctant to solve that mess, and allows pro-ukrainian armed cretins to now turn against Ukraine itself - causing UKRAINIAN citizens across ALL OF UKRAINE go through a power shortages, because mr. Chocolate King fears that his presidency will be questioned if he'll act against these pseudo patriots, who use Ukraine as excuse to kill, steal and spread their violent neo-nazy cult. These people must've never been allowed to bear arms and roam around - they belong in dark alley, drawing swazticas, mumbling their hymns and robbing people - until they get to jail, where violent uncontrollable freaks belong. And because of mistakes made by government of my country and government of Ukraine - we have hundreds, if not thousands of them banded together in gangs and batallions and fighting each other. Playing a war - and causing people to die around them, like these poor souls of malasian airliner. It would've not happened, if Ukraine reacted adequately to referendums or if Putin would've secured them all. Later - counter referendums could've been possible, double citizenships, any civilized solution - instead we got a bloodshed.
Agree, it is a good thing. And I am sorry too, if I sounded too harsh sometimes. One of things I came here for was exactly to.. Resolve some of misunderstandings people abroad might have towards my country.
I think you may be overestimating Putin's power in the Ukrainian situation. IMO Soros's dirty hand is still in there. I apologize for the sanctions. Considering my belief that Soros deliberately provoked a lot of what happened in the Ukraine, --possibly, I see now, to set up Putin, --IMO sanctions are not warranted. Your description helps me to see that the antagonism now being expressed against Russia here in relation to Trump could be part of a long-term plot to destroy US relations with Russia...but I still can't see why that would be a goal, unless it has to do with oil again. Everything rotten seems to go back to oil and gas issues.
I do not know. From my point of view I can see NATO bases with anti-missile defences, that negate my country's nuclear arsenal. Unpleasant and frightening view.
I don't think there is any interest in actually attacking Russia. IMO the world learned from Germany's failure. Putin's attempts to make Russia self sufficient guards against many things. That's why I support the US doing the same.
I did previously, possibly in this thread, provide a link. I am not going to redo posts I have already made to indulge you.
The problem is, that's all they have. Their great orange hope has already flip-flopped on every issue that he conned them with, and keeps having incoherent brain farts with his random twitter rants, so they really don't have a clue what sort of turd they will have to polish next. It's all just mindless rote. No wonder trump loves the poorly educated.
Should it surprise anyone to see a link of the Obama administration State department and the Soros Open Society Foundation? It shouldn't as they share many similar goals. Also not surprising is the "transparent administration" failure to respond to FOIA requests for State Department and US Agency for International Development records of funding for the Sorus foundation. Thus, the need for a lawsuit. Watchdog Sues State Dept & USAID for Funding & Political Activities Records of George Soros’ Open Society Foundation http://thewashingtonstandard.com/wa...records-george-soros-open-society-foundation/
You just made my day. From GBM's link: "... Judicial Watch previously reported: THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS QUIETLY SPENT MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DESTABILIZE THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED, CENTER-RIGHT GOVERNMENT IN MACEDONIA BY COLLUDING WITH LEFTWING BILLIONAIRE PHILANTHROPIST GEORGE SOROS, RECORDS OBTAINED BY JUDICIAL WATCH SHOW. BARACK OBAMA’S U.S. AMBASSADOR TO MACEDONIA, JESS L. BAILY, HAS WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES WITH SOROS’ OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATION TO FUNNEL LARGE SUMS OF AMERICAN DOLLARS FOR THE CAUSE, CONSTITUTING AN INTERFERENCE OF THE U.S. AMBASSADOR IN DOMESTIC POLITICAL AFFAIRS IN VIOLATION OF THE VIENNA CONVENTION ON DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS. *** HERE’S HOW THE CLANDESTINE OPERATION FUNCTIONS, ACCORDING TO HIGH-LEVEL SOURCES IN MACEDONIA AND THE U.S. THAT HAVE PROVIDED JUDICIAL WATCH WITH RECORDS AS PART OF AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. THE OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATION HAS ESTABLISHED AND FUNDED DOZENS OF LEFTWING, NONGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS (NGOS) IN MACEDONIA TO OVERTHROW THE CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT. ONE MACEDONIAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL INTERVIEWED BY JUDICIAL WATCH IN WASHINGTON D.C. RECENTLY, CALLS IT THE “SOROS INFANTRY.” THE GROUPS ORGANIZE YOUTH MOVEMENTS, CREATE INFLUENTIAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND ORGANIZE VIOLENT PROTESTS TO UNDERMINE THE INSTITUTIONS AND POLICIES IMPLEMENTED BY THE GOVERNMENT. ONE OF THE SOROS’ GROUPS FUNDED THE TRANSLATION AND PUBLICATION OF SAUL ALINSKY’S “RULES FOR RADICALS” INTO MACEDONIAN. THE BOOK IS A TACTICAL MANUAL OF SUBVERSION, PROVIDES DIRECT ADVICE FOR RADICAL STREET PROTESTS AND PROCLAIMS LUCIFER TO BE THE FIRST RADICAL. THANKS TO OBAMA’S AMBASSADOR, WHO HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP, UNCLE SAM KEEPS THE MONEY FLOWING SO THE GROUPS CAN CONTINUE OPERATING AND RECRUITING, SOURCES IN MACEDONIA AND THE U.S. CONFIRM. ..."
He was 8 years old when the nazis invaded his country so all this nazi stuff is dumb goyim talking points
