Space X to create worldwide internet access global Sat. system.

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  1. Durandal

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    I had snow for a couple of days, but it's been unseasonably warm and the snow has melted.
     
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    Do you know what the major difference is between my snow and yours?
     
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    If you're really in Georgia, you probably don't have any snow and won't most years.
     
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    The south gets ragged on by the entire country because of how we react to snow. Pretty common knowledge. A forecast of snow shuts down entire county schools. We all go get bread, milk, and toilet paper. It's a national joke.
    When we get snow the temperature rises and melts it quickly because temps don't stay below freezing long at all. Then the sun sets and temps drop and the melted snow freezes to our roads. It's called black ice and it is especially bad on bridges like all the ones tractor trailer trucks use to navigate around Atlanta causing horrible accidents.
    Your snow is powder, easily moved by a vast road crew. Once it gets cold, it stays cold so your snow is much less dangerous and doesn't shut cities down.
    Do you have central ac?
     
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    I personally don't have central AC in this place. It's kind of a crappy old farm house. Good news is it is surrounded by trees and stays pretty cool in the summer.
     
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    I don't see any basis for a suit that simply alleges "we can't do whatever we want." ... and in what court would they file it?



    ("judge E-T presiding")


     
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    I didn't figure most houses that far north had central air. It's a necessity here.
    My brother went to Canada once and said his nose hairs froze and 3 minutes outside was so cold it hurt. I imagine it is beautiful up there but there's no way I could make it in that kind of cold.
    We have had an unseasonably warm fall. I'm not a fan of winter, even in Georgia.
    Highs in the summer are mid to high 90's. Winter jumps around between 40-60.
    I spent almost a year in Colorado...the most beautiful place I've ever seen. It snowed from October to May. It never got warm enough to rain. Buttt....The temperature in an arid climate and humid climate can be the same and feel very different. Georgia is very humid so our hot seems hotter and our cold seems colder.
    And the nation is right...southerners CAN NOT drive in the snow.
     
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    Haha...it is really amazing how communication, media, and internet are ahead of the rest of the world. It happened VERY VERY fast in the US though. In 7-8 years EVERYTHING changed.
    All internet access comes through a provider. Usually your cell company like Verizon, Sprint, T Mobile, etc or cable company like UVerse or ATT. Parents can restrict their kid's device access and even password protect the tv. Each family member has a user id and password. You can restrict things by channel, rating, etc.
    All that to say, having internet access certainly doesnt mean it cannot be restricted, controlled, or manipulated.
     
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    I agree about that amazing transformation. And I agree that parents will still have an option to restrict their children's access—for example they can not give them a smart phone or just walk over an unplug the computer.

    It does sound like satellite provided internet access will make it harder for governments to limit their citizen's ability to access or post information with the internet. That could have a huge impact on countries like China, Iran and North Korea.

    The way folks are talking about how internet disinformation impacted the recent US election, how internet communications facilitate terrorism, and how Russian cyber-warfare is endangering US businesses seems to be heading us in a scary direction. There is already discussion how better regulation of internet sources may be required. Satellite based internet access might have an impact on the future of the US as well.



     
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    You can give the kid a phone they can use and set up controls. You can block features, limit time usage, restrict websites, etc.
    In my county every student in every public school K-12 is issued a chrome book. It is a mini laptop with internet. There are designated sites they can and cannot access and everything they do on those chrome books is monitored and recorded. They are part of a controlled network.
    On a private level, there are no government controls or restrictions. In the US there is no way our government could successfully do that.
    They tried to strongarm Apple for access and Apple said no. The government knew there was nothing they could do. First, they don't know how to do it. Second, the American public would destroy DC. I can honestly think of nothing else our government could do that would absolutely ignite a public war on them unlike anything ever seen.
    Plus computer hacks could publicize every politicians skeletons, hack bank accounts, their phones... that is a can of worms they know better than to open because there isn't a chance in hell they will come out on top.
    Prohibition would be dwarfed by the response.
    Internet service isn't satellite based. If all satellites blew up you could still shop on Ebay, listen to Youtube, and Facebook.
    GPS is a feature you can enable on all Androids and Iphones for the past 4 years or so. It's a feature you can turn on and off. GPS locates you via phone and can tell you what's around you. It is most useful for navigation. You can use a variety of navigation programs, most folks use Goggle Maps. You say or type your destination and a map pops up on your screen and your phone talks telling you where to turn, etc, exactly how to get there. It even knows how traffic if flowing and offers multiple routes. It is pretty amazing. A decade ago I wouldn't have dreamed of this Galaxy 7 I am posting this from and everything it can do and how much it has changed life in America. Never would have imagined.
    I seriously laughed at the thought of a Russian hack. Japanese, maybe. Russian...haha. comedy gold
     
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    Regarding internet information... There is a wealth of good and bad info out there.
    Popular stories, fact or fiction can certainly have impact.
     
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    Facebook beaming free internet???

    WTF are you talking about!!??

    Crazy!!

    AA
     
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    Well the signal would be traveling at nearly 186,282 miles per second so even if the satellites were in geosynchronous orbit which is a distance of 22,236 miles above sea level it would only take a total of 0.11967 of a second to travel from the satellite to the surface of the Earth.

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    Haha. Some poster said FB was going to beam internet to China!
    Haha.
    It really is fascinating to read posts about stuff like that. A decade ago I couldn't have begun to wrap my mind around this little thing in my hand. I couldn't have dreamed of it.
     
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    If you are out of your cell service area, your GPS won't work.
     
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    Yup. As has always been the case with free speech. I'm willing to take the risk of letting someone else talk, even if that means he has a right to lie, distort, speak hatefully or just be mistaken.

    Not everyone is.



     
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    I am talking about if a global satellite system is actually set up by SpaceX which we do not know if this is just a ploy to raise stock prices or an actual plan but they have applied for the licensing and it would provide internet access 200 times faster than currently available on any existing internet provider.

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    Gene Roddenberry did!

    LOL!!

    There is currently a company that is offering a $20 Million prize for the first person to develop a TRICORDER and it must do everything it did on Star Trek!

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    That plus the time it takes the satellite to forward the signal all adds up to high latency. You can't do online games on satellite internet, for instance. Uploading is also an issue..
     
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    Their propositions are a long way off.
    They also wouldn't be a provider. Providers would contract with them. Providers charge for faster service.
    Who would want faster service and why?

    Explain what a tricorder does. I never watched Star Trek. I'd be more interested in particle transfer..like beam me up scotty. That would be cool.
     
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    Location and signal play a vital role in addition to service provider. Verizon is on top and Sprint is a very close second. If you got no bars, you are out of luck. More urban and densely populated places have more towers and better reception.
    We have an Air Rave at home. We would have really bad cell reception here without it.
     
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    Urban areas have nice amenities such as cable and fiber optic, though. I had great cable internet in Sioux Falls, SD, for instance. I'm really missing that now.
     
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    I don't know. I just thought China would have something to say if it interacts within their border. They have millions of people to brain wash.
     
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    I'm sure they'll have concerns. And they can pass laws to prevent repeaters or even individual use of those satellites within their borders. But I don't see how they would have any standing in an international court to prohibit the existence of those satellites—which are too high to enter into their airspace.

    Dunno. They may threaten to shoot them down anyway. We'll have to see.



     
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    Military Satellite based internet uses highly advanced and lightning fast broadcast and reception tech. and this tech is now relatively OLD but it is just now being made available for civy use.

    It is much faster than cable internet.

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    No technology can overcome the limitation of the speed of light, and geosynchronous satellites are quite far away. Thus no matter how fast the bandwidth, there will ALWAYS be LATENCY. It's a separate issue from bandwidth, what we normally associate with the "speed" of our internet connections.
     

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