States seceding from the USA

Is that a fact? Lets see some sources and numbers to validate this spewage....

 

And you really believe Mittens would have been less a warmonger? Or would you have wanted to secede if he would have become POTUS also?

 

Just goes to show, NOWHERE has a monopoly on crazy people.

 

Which states receive the lion’s share of welfare? Again, it is not what the Republicans would like you to think. In fact, if you map the states that receive the most welfare on the map, it look remarkably similar to the 2008 presidential electoral map. The Red States receive far more welfare than they pay into the system. Who flips the bill? Blue states.
http://thecentristword.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/red-states-addiction-to-welfare-a-gop-dilema/

Food Stamp Use is Highest in Red States: The Truth Republicans Do Not Want You to Know
http://www.policymic.com/articles/14007/food-stamp-use-is-highest-in-red-states-the-truth-republicans-do-not-want-you-to-know

 

Yea? Look who's got a thank from Gwendoline

 

No slant to that source, hmmmm?

 

No, not in the least. I don't know what led you to believe such a thing.

I don't believe I've expressed a desire to secede. I do, however, think that the right to self determination is sacrosanct and also that those who would oppose such with violence are tyrannical simpletons.

 

I am against any wars, but I must say that I find drone attacks targeting specific goals than the INVASION of a foreign country with 150,000 of our soldiers, leading to the death of a huge number of natives and many soldiers.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong. . .but which war did President Obama START?
And which war did he END?

 

Is that all? I would think that would happen constantly, regardless of whomever is president, in every state of the union, on a daily basis.

 

I wasn't limiting the warmongering to that done solely by Obama. Should I assume, taking your unnecessary and unconvincing defense of Obama into consideration, that your partisanship takes precedence over your anti-war stance?

 

Heavens no. I don't even want to see any states to leave the union. I started out just joking about not saving your Confederate money as the South will rise again and a poster took me serious and eluded there wasn't a chance, sort of bringing up how they lost the Civil War. No there aren't any problems we can't work out as long as we put country before Party. I was just pointing out that if one came, the South was in a much better position than during the Civil War.

 

I would think so as well. It makes a better story right after a black guy gets reelected POTUS, though. More sensational and all that.

 

OBAMA RE-ELECTED: Violence erupts between cats and dogs.

 

Illusions?

 

exactly!

 

The state with the highest usage of federal tax dollars is New Mexico, which Obama carried.
http://visualeconomics.creditloan.com/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/

 

Nobody who supports Obama is tired of illusions, obviously.

 

Absolutely not! I am just NOT a dreamer, and I know that it is impossible to stop the war machine (unfortunately!) in a day, even in a month or a year.

But I am perfectly satisfied that STOPPING the war machine, and doing everything in his power to NOT BEGIN new wars is President Obama's goal.

Could you have said the same about Romney's (or McCain's) stance on a potential war with Iran?

Now. . .who is using his mind and intelligence as a second fiddle to his partisanship?

 

That is the funniest quote of the day!

The Republicans, including their leaders and their media has proved just ONE WEEK ago that they lived in a huge delusional world, with very little similarity with reality.

The realization of how very deluded the Republicans were was proven not only to America but to the world.

Except. ..apparently. . .to those who are STILL insisting that THEIR is the reality, and that anyone who doesn't agree with them have "illusions!"

I feel so sorry for the poor guys!

 

How is "stopping the war machine" Obama's goal? Military spending has gone UP since Obama took office. How does that achieve his supposed goal? Hasn't Obama said that war with Iran is a possibility to prevent them from going nuclear? Do you agree with that position?

 

Either Obama or Mittens were going to become POTUS, quit trying to ride the fence.

 

And the other top ten are red states. You're down ten to one.

 

It is a thing that contains bad and is also contains good as black and white thinking can provide us with benefits of simplicity while it also increases error.


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Beware the words of ‘absolute’! For most but not all words contain assumed reference. Saying someone is smart is an assumed reference that the person is smarter than what? It is a word used as an absolute that in truth has no true meaning except through the ones receiving the word giving it reference through assumption leading them to differencing opinion of what smart actually indicates.

If you join the ‘Religion that is not a Religion’ you would understand these many things. I suggest when you use the word riot you futher indicate the reference of “More a riot than some but not all” in order to establish a reference that is valid and almost fully accurate but not completely accurate.
By now you must know that my words contain truth but not all truth. I often indicate my accuracy as 99.9% accurate 1% of the time, much like Rush Limaugh but not fully like him.

 

Did you have a point that was relevant to my comment hidden in there somewhere? What does "Either Obama or Mittens were going to become POTUS" have to do with my point that the United States has become a warmongering nation?

 

Obviously, I am not please with the increase in defense spending. . .but then again, Romney would have INCREASED the defense budget INSTEAD of cutting it as Obama wants to do. (remember the "ships" comment?). Also, Romney was to ignorant about defense spending to even realize that the Dept of Veterans affairs (which cares for returning veterans, disabled veterans, etc.) is NOT part of the defense budget (although I think it should be, since it is the direct consequences of the wars, and therefore should enter in a cost/benefit analysis of the wisdom of entering into a new war), but is a DIFFERENT budget department all together.

Either he was really stupid about defense, or he just gambled that American people were stupid and tried to pull on their heart strings and make them belief that, by advocating for CUTS in the defense budget, President Obama also met to cut the assistance to our veterans!

Okay, I did say that I didn't like the defense budget going up. However, I can totally understand that some high tech tools of wars cost a lot more than "bayonets" and therefore there is automatically an increase in cost. BUT, I also believe that those "surgical tools" will save limbs and life for our soldiers (which is hugely important, of course), but also will save long term cost of while maintaining our commitment to care for our veterans.

And, regarding the "potential" of a war with Iran. . .obviously President Obama couldn't just reject that possibility outright! But, contrary to Romney, he is not "jumping" into a possibility to start such a war, and is utilizing EVERY POSSIBLE means to avoid such a war.

I do believe that, a war with Iran, instead of being the FIRST CHOICE of Romney (maybe because of his friends the defense contractor lobbyists pushing for it?), it is the LAST CHOICE for President Obama, and that if there is anyway to apply surgical strikes (maybe involving spying and the seals) instead of a big invasion and/or nuclear weapons, this is what President Obama will do.

He is also influencing Israel's ability to start a war with Iran and, instead of jumping to the rescue of the war monger within the Israeli AND the Iranian government, he seems to be observing and encouraging the PEOPLE of Israel, and the PEOPLE of Iran whom, in MANY cases do NOT WANT A WAR!

Are you familiar with the movements for peace among those two countries?