Steve Scalise: Democrats Applaud ‘Murder’ of a ‘Baby Born Alive’

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Is it ok to let a baby born alive after a failed abortion attempt be left to die without care?

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    oh i understood it perfectly
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong, as always!

    The VA is NOT Single Payer health INSURANCE!

    The VA is a MEDICAL SERVICE PROVIDER!

    That you don't even know the glaringly obvious difference says volumes!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You posts prove the exact OPPOSITE to be the case.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Thanks for the comic relief.
     
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    Of course it's not ok. And it's not ok to let a baby die without care even if there was no abortion attempt.

    That's why we have Obamacare!
     
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  7. struth

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    oooooook....they provide not only the payment system, but also the hospital
     
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    Right, because it's the childs fault the parents don't want it. It has to die
     
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    You mean a fetus. Because no one is killing healthy viable babies.
     
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    It's not a fetus outside of the body.
    Sorry, i know you thought you were pretty slick there.
     
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    I think this thread and the topic is about whether newborns have right to life and the same protections as other persons once free from the mother's body.
     
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    Again, no one is killing healthy viable babies
     
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    Should a live baby result as an attempted abortion the medical staff is required under present law to do everything within their power to sustain and maintain that child's life,the lack of such effort would be murder.ONLY 1.5% of all abortions in 2015 were at 21 weeks or beyond,90% of all U.S. abortions are at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy.
     
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    and this is republicans

    "Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

    "Hudson's mother, Wanda, put up a fight when doctors advised removing Sun from a respirator. She said she did not believe in sickness or death.

    But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."


    if the mother doesn't have the money to keep their child alive AFTER birth, the baby will die per republicans
     
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    Steve Scalise: Democrats Applaud ‘Murder’ of a ‘Baby Born Alive’
    First, I have some serious doubts about the legitimacy of this story. Second, if true, it violates the Roe v Wade ruling of the Supreme Court. Third, once a fetus becomes viable (according to Roe v Wade), it is granted all the rights of American citizenship guaranteed by the Constitution. So, as a liberal Democrat, & a Pro-Choice supporter, I say absolutely NO to any action such as described here. While I'm not an attorney, I believe Roe v Wade dictates that during the third trimester, the rights of the unborn fetus are the same as for any American citizen. That is, it's life is protected by law, and to end it would be regarded as murder. I support that ruling.
     
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    yep, this law was just to block valid abortion, did nothing to protect actual babies that were born... in fact may of prevented the destruction of extra sperm and egg in In-Vitro cases - which may of prevented some babies from ever being born ironically as it woudl raise the cost of the procedure
     
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    No one is killing healthy viable human slugs. They get sick and die on their own.
     
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    Pay no attention to the dead baby behind the curtain.
     
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    Right...I forgot we've determined you think children of irresponsible parents are slugs.
     
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    Lead poisoning.
     
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    Abortion rates are lower today than prior to it's legalization.
     
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    In fact, a little more reading on the subject would show you that Republican groups are taking note of those who have voted against Sasse's bill - and they will use it against Dem presidential candidates. Late term abortions represent less than 1.3% of abortions - and they exist for medical reasons, not a willy nilly choice. Why aren't the Republicans putting important bills - that impact the lives of Americans - rather than focusing on bills that are designed to inflame emotions?
     
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    Speculation
     
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    Yes because we know exactly how many illegal abortions were performed.
     
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    Pregnancies and BIRTHS are at record lows so it only stands to reason that abortions would also be at record low rates.
     
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