Steve Scalise: Democrats Applaud ‘Murder’ of a ‘Baby Born Alive’

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Is it ok to let a baby born alive after a failed abortion attempt be left to die without care?

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    I know what it is, a popular service for senior citizens, that’s unfortunately is one of the largest drivers of our debt and needs reform
     
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    Well yeah, private companies have other expenses that the fed doesn’t have...such as taxes, lawsuits and advertising. Private insurance has to deal with conpetition as well. No sure how overhead makes one greedy...can you explain more?
     
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    So it is a "service" when your car insurance pays out on a claim? :eek:
     
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    Of course. That means I don’t have to pay out of my pocket, I pay them monthly for that service
     
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    Yet another massive load of BOVINE EXCREMENT!

    Medicare Parts A & B are FULLY FUNDED via Payroll Taxes and Premiums!

    Why is it that you are completely UNAWARE of such basic facts?
     
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    The BLOATED OVERHEADS of the greedy private health insurers are primarily SELF INFLICTED!

    All their asinine nonsense about having "networks" and "pre-approvals" and a gazillion different plan options are what drives their overheads through the roof. On top of that they can't even standardize their industry reporting requirements which makes their administrative costs a mistake driven inefficient nightmare that could easily be remediated if they weren't so corrupt and incompetent.

    Medicare is a model of efficiency and competence in comparison to the private healthcare insurers who really are CLUELESS.
     
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    Obviously you do not understand the difference between the term "service" and "claim".

    Words have MEANINGS.

    Look them up if you don't understand the differences.
     
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    1)Dems in NY applauded their passage of the baby killing bill a month ago.
    2)You don't seem to understand how the law works, as in the most recent bill passed holds the most weight in legitimacy.
    3)Tell that to NY, VA and many other democrat states that have "up to birth" abortion bills on their books right now.
     
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    Not according to the new NY law.
     
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  11. struth

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    Tell that to obama he said it was
     
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    Prove it!
     
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    I make a claim, the insurance company provides the service of covering that claim because I pay them for that service. No different then paying my electric company for providing their services, or a lawyer for his services etc...you have products and services, or usually a combo of both:
     
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    I have never met anyone who's ever named their child before being born. That being said, naming the fetus does not make it a child.
    Women say they are "eating for two" because of that fetus inside them. Saying the phrase "eating for two" is an expression...and saying that expression does not make it a child.
    It's considered murder because it's not up to someone else to destroy another persons fetus
     
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    Wrong on all counts!

     
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    yeah they have a lot of plans to provide different options for their clients. Gosh...what a horrible concept. Can you provide some evidence that places like Kaiser and Blue Cross are corrupt? Also Medicare has pre-approvals as well....
     
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    Wow just wow....and insurane company provides a service....that service is insurance. I make a claim against my insurance company, they provide their service, because i pay them. This isn't rocket science...I also noticed you left a lot out of your definations..https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/service

    Check out...
    4: the act of serving: such as

    b: useful labor that does not produce a tangible commodity —usually used in pluralcharge for professional services

    Did you try to intentionally mislead?
     
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    For obvious reasons "Networks" are so hospital systems can make sure more members will use their hospitals and doctors.
    "Pre-approvals" are so doctors can try to help manage the care of their patients. Should people be getting an MRI because they have a simple headache?
     
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    :roflol:

    Yet another instance where all you did was read a HEADLINE and IGNORE the relevant CONTENT!

    You are taking Obama's statement entirely OUT OF CONTEXT!

    That 2009 QUESTION PREDATED Obama's health care reform AND the introduction of the ACA!

    The tax reforms were put in place by the ACA which RAISED the rates and solved the problem that was being discussed BACK IN 2009! (Check the date, it is 10 years later now.)

    So once again the facile grasp of the subject matter is exposed!
     
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    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...and-fail-patients_us_59286dd9e4b053f2d2ac51f0

    https://www.wanttoknow.info/health/health_insurance_industry_corruption

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46495.htm

     
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    Not my problem if you don't grasp the actual meaning of the terms you misuse.
     
  23. struth

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    I like how you highlighted in red the part where the website rates his comment "mostly true"

    You told me to prove he said it...I did.

    Now...another quote, from 2018 being fact checked that claims medicare is the largest driver of national debt as well....https://www.politifact.com/florida/...re-and-social-security-not-defense-are-drivi/

    Now let's go back to your post...remember when you said it was fully funded? hahahahhahha
     
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    1) your huffingtop post opinion piece isn't about insurance companies at all.
    2) you're second piece is interesting...but a decade ago...all we did was pass Obamacare which forced insurance companies to raise premiums on people.

    Edit...not premiums should say deductables...
     
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    All that you have actually proven is that I am 100% accurate when I point out that you are disingenuously taking everything OUT OF CONTEXT!

    But that is entirely YOUR problem, not mine!
     

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