Stop calling it Thomas Jefferson's Koran

No actual proof.

Just her statements, she said it was her personal one.

Of course she could be lying I guess.

 

Oh ok. So you are making a claim without proof. Got it.

So it is Jefferson's koran.

I thought so

 

LOLOL

In your mind it can be anyone's.

LOLOL

 

Freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) revealed Saturday that she swore in as a member of the House of Representatives on her personal Quran, rather than the historic copy owned by Thomas Jefferson, as news reports previously indicated.

Multiple news outlets including The Hill previously reported that Tlaib would swear in as one of the first two female Muslim representatives in U.S. history on a copy of the Quran once owned by Jefferson, the nation's 3rd president, which is currently stored in the Library of Congress during the ceremonial swearing-in session with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

 

Or it yours. We know Jefferson had a koran and you have no evidence this is not the same one.

Maybe it belonged to Washington. Lol

 

Here's more:

 

The Hill and other sources state the same.

But it is good to know that Jefferson owned a Koran to understand Musselmen and devise strategy to kill them.

 

Here is an update on the story =

Why the Quran Was a Bestseller Among Christians in 18th Century America
*Jefferson’s Quran was a 1734 translation by a British lawyer named George Sale. It was the first direct translation of the Quran from Arabic to English (the only other English version was a translation of a French translation published in 1649), and would remain the definitive English translation of the Quran into the late 1800s. In his introduction, Sale wrote that the purpose of the book was to help Protestants understand the Quran so that they could argue against it*
https://www.history.com/news/thomas-jefferson-quran-rashida-tlaib-keith-ellison

 

The truth of the matter is that I don't have any problem with politicians swearing false oaths as the very nature of their office pretty much dictates that they MUST lie to the public most of the time regarding what they really think or intend to do and because most of them consider any oath that they personally must take to be an utter joke. Or in other words, most politicians never mean their oath of office in the first place.

Pretty much since history consistently proves that 90% or better of all politicians always swear false oaths anyway, I'd just as soon dispense with the now meaningless and empty ceremony and just keep an eye on the scum bags instead.

 

Why do's it bother you so much. If it belonged to Jefferson, then it was his Koran.

 

Is Jeffersons Koran formatted in numbered chapters and verses like the Bible is?

 

I believe that question was asked and nobody knows.

Of course it means nothing if you don't know how to arrange them.

 

See, that is the thing. You have a book written in 1734 but no one has any idea what is in it. The whole thing could be a hoax because no one has ever examined the damn thing. The reason why I want to know how it is formatted because I think that the Koran as we know it was formatted fairly recently. If the Jefferson Koran is authentic and if it was formatted with numbered chapters and verses then it would prove that my theory is completely wrong. But no one will publish the pages from the damn thing. Why is that?

 

I believe it was pointed out that it is probably not correct.
It is not an accredited version.
There are about 30 accredited versions, and I like to use the top 5.
The Qur'an is not numbered like the bible.
And as I said, the numbers mean nothing if you don't know how to arrange them.

 

What did Jesus say about swearing oaths?

 

Only the Psalms have always been numbered, because they were originally sung like hymns in public Hebrew worship, rather than just read privately.

Originally for instance a book like Isaiah just read straight through from beginning to end with no chapter divisions or verse numbers -- but it always kept the same form and sequence. There is a Dead Sea scroll of Isaiah that is 8 meters long, running continuously.

The New Testament did not have chapter divisions until 1226 A.D., and did not have verse numbers until 1560 A.D. but always kept the same form and sequence before it got the new conveniences.

I have no idea if the Qur'an had numbers when it was first published handwritten, as were all books handwritten until Gutenberg began printing books.

Back in the day of Mark Antony a small collection of a few of Aristotle's books might go for the equivalent of a million dollars. Very few people owned even a small book.

 

It was Thomas Jefferson's koran though.

 

Not the one she used, but the one in the library was for a little while.

 

Thomas Jefferson did own one. She didn't use that one?

 

Nope. That was fake news. She said she used her personal Qur'an.

 

huh. You learn something new everyday I guess. I'm off this thread then

 

if it was Jefferson's old bible, it would be jefferson's bible... same deal if it was his koran... simple

 

oh please, in America there is religions freedom for all religious beliefs, yes, that includes Muslims - we escaped a theocracy, yet we still allow people to be Christians here too

the bible is against religions freedom and freedom of speech, you think Christians should not be able to swear on the bible?

 

I agree, all muslims should be allowed to murder non muslims, whenever they want, because they need freedom of their religion.

 

so do you also feel the same about Christians killing people?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

2 Chronicles 15:13

King James Version (KJV)

13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.



we had Christian poster post here that thought like that

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/24/l...igned-up-on-tea-party-page-and-quoted-hitler/

"And in another, Houser cheered Muslim extremists for defending their religion.

“Yes it’s true, Muslims are alone in shutting down liberals that mock their God. They have my complete Christian respect.”"