Stop calling it Thomas Jefferson's Koran

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  1. TexMexChef

    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

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    The vast majority of people in America that owned a bible...in 1780s...did they all read their bible?

    I doubt those conditions have changed much today.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I quoted what the Christian God said in the Christian bible

    you do realize Christians created their religion as a part 2 of the previous religion.... which they Jewish of course built their religion on top of even older religions, the new often builds a top of the old

    if Christians are gonna put the older religion in the newer religions bible, then they can't deny their God said it

    "that even the Jews don't follow anymore."

    yep, most Christians, Muslims and Jews are good people
     
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  3. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    No, you quoted the Jewish god in the Jewish bible.

    And most probably are good people, I can't say for sure, because I don't know most, as you do, it is the religion that is fu-ked up,
    The people are just caught up in it.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you do know the Christian God and the Jewish God are one and the same and my quote was from the Christian Bible

    most Christians and Muslims are good people, both have their religious fanatics sadly
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    The OT is Jewish, and nothing more than a history book for the Christians.
    The coming of Jesus changed the rules, and now, they
    Turn the other cheek,
    Casting the first stone,
    love thy enemy,
    stuff like that.
    You need to learn about religions before you start quoting them.
    Islam has similar issues where you can quote something word for word from the Qur'an, and it is wrong.

    And I don't know most Christians and Muslims like you do, so I can't make that statement.
     
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    so the ten commandments means nothing to Christians

    the fact is, the Christian and Jewish God are one and the same, so if God says something in the Jewish religion, then that means the Christian God said it too as they are the same

    I get it, you believe God changed to become a better God, not all Christians believe that though, especially not the fanatics like bakers that wont bake a cake for someone cause of the OT
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Lets continue with your religious fantasy
    The Muslim God is also the same god, only he wants the Jews and Christians killed.

    There is lots in the OT that is still followed by Christians,

    You need to learn about religions before you quote them.
    There is lots of tricky stuff.
     
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    The Jews invented the God from previous writings.
    It is theirs, they have the patient on it.
    The Christians stole the God, added more gods to it, changed the rules,
    And turned on the Jews.
    The Muslims then stole the god, eliminated the Christian gods,
    Instilled their prophet.
    changed the rules again, and turned on the Christians and the Jews.

    Now God is either a wishy-washy Schizophrenic, who simply cannot make up his mind.

    Or they are different Gods.
     
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    LOL you never read the bible it would seems or history for that matter such as the Muslim ruler who save over a hundred thousand Jews by sending a fleet of ships to Christian Spain to removed them from harm way.
     
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    Sound like you talking about Trump!!!!!!!
     
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    Your number is way overexaggerated however there was a time in Spain where the Muslims and Jews joined forces to fight Christians.
    This was a very short lived period.
    And why would you think that is in the bible.
     
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    yes, Muslims, Christians and Jews all believe in the exact same God, you get it now

    and yes, the OT is still in the Christian bible, including the text to kill non-believers

    You really need to learn about religions before you defend them
     
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    LOLOL

    Do you really think the Jews and Christians pray to a god, who wants them killed.

    As I said, learn something about a religion before you attempt to quote it.
     
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    which is part of the Christian bible.
     
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    As a history of times past.
    The rules have changed with the coming of Christ.
     
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    yes, Muslims, Christians and Jews all believe in the exact same God

    if you do not get that, you have a lot to learn about these 3 Abrahamic religions
     
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    LOLOLOLOL
     
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    nope

    Matthew 5:17
     
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    Sorry, that one is explained. By several people.

    Also no Christian church preaches the 613 laws of Moses.
    The only ones followed are the ten comandments.
     
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    He is called the same God by the Muslims in their feeble attempt to convinve Christians and Jews he really hates them, and wants them killed.
    However Christians say pfffffttt

    They have their own God, with their own rules.
     
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    it's crystal clear that jesus did not abolish the old testament, or it's laws. Lol, he specifically says as much in the quote I gave you.
    because Christianity, like every other religion, is made up bullshit. But this doesn't change the fact that the Christian bible includes the old testament, and that it is written in said bible that jesus did not abolish the old l aw.
    see above.
     
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    You quoted Mathew,

    And nobody knows who wrote it.

    So now you are telling Christians how to practice their faith.
    They aren't going to listen to you.

    I grew up in a hard core protestant culture.

    And we never did that.
     
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    no, I'm telling you that you don't know anything about the 3 Abrahamic religions. I don't care how anyone practices their religion, as long as it has no effect on me.
     
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    Obviousaly I know quite a bit more than you do.

    BTW, I know more about Islam than most Muslims.
    Just mediocre about Christianity,
    and little about Jewish.
     
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    reality has demonstrated otherwise.
    lol, no
    you don't even have a cursory understanding of any of them.
     

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