Stop deluding yourself, you weren't even an average President.

In the real life, you judge people on the real result. Accordingly, Obama was a below average president. The other thing is that the media continues spreading pro-Obama propaganda. That's just forcing people believing in Potemkin villages, which were by the way non-existent. Same with Obama's achievements.

Anyway it appears that there is really a clique in the USA, both Democrats and Republicans, that prefer to rule the USA the same way as the Soviet Union was run once. The U.S media is the reflection of it.

 

Carter and Nixon were before my birth. I heard bad things about Carter.

 

Yet a recent poll shows Obama to be the best president in our lifetimes. That obese orange fool is far down the list.

 

I'll excuse for not remembering Johnson as you were only four when he left office...

 

Way too Early to assess the presidencies of anyone post Clinton.

 

No it's not.

 

Yes, yes it is. Too much emotional attachment remains in play to make a fair and impartial judgement of the accomplishments, or lack there of, of any of these men. It is difficult even with Clinton

 

WOW median household income increased 5.3% in 8 years?????????? what an accomplishment!!! That comes to .6% a year. In the mean time what was the inflation rate????? You can look it up, but it averaged 7%!! That means during the Obama regime, the average household went in the hole 6.4% every year the fool was in office.

 

Obama pull the American economy out of the worst economic calamity of my lifetime (silent generation). Without our safety net, it would have been the second Great Depression. Every sector in America was in shambles. Bush began TARP and the Auto Bailout, Obama extended it and more. These are undisputed facts.

Was Obama the greatest president? History will judge that. He did leave office with a 68% job approval rating. Currently it's running slightly above that. Trump's is sinking below 40%. Why is that? That a good question for Trump supporters to consider. Those who dismiss Obama as the worst president ever have never cracked a history or economics book. They appear to be slaves of FOX and AM radio.

 

Yes, thank you. Johnson left the presidency when I was 6. I don't remember him. He was responsible for Vietnam and the Great Society. I'd place him as the worst, even worse than Obama.

 

Carter was a generally good person. He was not involved in scandals. But he was incompetent.

 

Well, if you listen to Republicans, Nixon was an angel who did nothing wrong, Carter was horrible, Clinton and Obama were responsible for the 2008 economic collapse, and there is never a mention of a President named Bush. Oh, and there was this nice guy named Reagan who never did anything wrong too.

20 years ago Reagan was the best President ever and they never heard of some guy named Nixon.

 

Agreed. Carter was a pompus ass according to the underlings in the WH during his term. But he was basically just a misguided liberal.

 

Nixon's great crime was being loyal to a bunch of idiots the plumbers whom he should of denounced and had thrown in jail as they richly deserved. There is no evidence that he had anything at all to do with the Watergate break in itself. His crime was in trying protect the idiots.

By the way it is now clear and obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that the Obama adminstration engaged in exactly the same actions over which Nixon was forced to resign but you are cheering them on. There in lies the constitutional crisis. And the left is busy blaming the victim

 

So just everyone around him were bad guys? Did he not have an enemies list handed to the IRS, FBI, and other agencies? Did he not have control over slush funds? Were there no tapes?
Even if your belief was that he did no wrong and only everyone he brought into the White House was a criminal, shouldn't that be enough to impeach? How many criminals does he get to hire?

You can answer for Trump or Nixon since they are both the same.

 

Too many factual inaccuracies to address them all, but............

https://www.ohio.com/akron/pages/when-obama-had-total-control-of-congress

Poll: Obama tops list ranking best president in Americans' lifetime

http://thehill.com/homenews/396511-...-ranking-best-president-in-americans-lifetime

 

Of course he had an enemies list we all carry one around in the back of our minds. I know nothing of slush funds but I'd be surprised if his campaign didn't have one. That sort of crap has been deriguer since Washington. Don't know about the FBI seems he may have tried to sick the IRS on some and there weren't nearly as many agencies back in his day. But hey once again plug in obama and you get a lot of the same crap.

 

We all carry around enemies lists? Speak for yourself.

And please show me any proof that Obama directed any agency to go after his political enemies.

 

James Rosen ring any bells? What about his attempt to deny Fox News access to presidential news briefings? Surely you haven't forgotten already the IRS scandal, and others too numerous to mention?

 

Very cogent. The moniker "racist" is headed your way, special delivery.

 

if I listen to Democrats Nixon was a demon who ate puppies, Carter never existed George Bush never existed Ronald Reagan with Satan himself, Bill Clinton was more Republican than George Bush jr. And George Bush jr had the mind of an infant.

you know there was President between Nixon and Reagan right?

 

I know this is a politically infantile country, you don't need to remind me of that fact. Just because they make wrong decisions and double down on wrong decisions, doesn't make them any more right.

 

IE: .Com bubble saved Clinton's ass. In reality, the Housing effort(which I once supported ideologically) was one of the major catalysts for the crisis. I still think the premise is a good idea, but we need to have credit limits and sort of a proper classification of homes per income. So that what happened, doesn't occur.

 

History will determine Obama's legacy like every other president. But according actual economic and social metrics he was an above average president. Even the best president's had their "issues" and defeats.

OTOH, I can understand how trumpettes and the rrrwfer's don't want to hear him speak out against trump. The contrast is so stark and trump's disadvantages so glaring the only thing for them to do is dismiss him as a "bad" guy that is to blame for trump in the first place.

Obama's coming out swinging and trump is simply no match.

 

So you think Donald Trump was wiretapping the headquarters got caught and was covering it up?


I'm afraid you're the only one that thinks that.