Stop it! Refugees are NOT a problem!

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Isn't America full of 'poor' people, desperate for money (that's what they tell me, at least)?
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course they're not a problem. The USA must be destroyed. Refugees will help accomplish that. Yay, refugees!
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Supply and demand...
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Don't know and don't care...I must work with reality and reality is a severe shortage of farm labor and those who do work are 99.9% immigrants...
     
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    Like I said...money is not a motivator! Makes no difference the wage if people don't want to work...
     
  6. crank

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    So they're aren't millions of poor people in America, then? I mean, if there is work available (at a very good hourly rate by American standards), anyone who genuinely wants to escape poverty would jump at the chance.
     
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    That reality is a creation (created by the demand for underpriced produce). It can be uncreated.
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't worry. Not the whole USA. Only racists who are also xenophobes and white supr...

    Uhmm, come to think of it... strike that... worry!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, in May of 2019 alone we apprehended 140K illegals.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, illegal is not a race.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, like all twelve of them.

    There are more xenophobic lefties than there are on the right.

    It isn't close.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That has never stopped xenophobes from being racists.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's great to hear! So the rest of us can all embrace our fellow human beings in need from the south and welcome them to our country. That'll show them twelve dudes!
     
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    Like democrat history?
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are creating an absolutely false dichotomy.

    I don't like to lump people into categories, but you leftists are all dishonest as heck.

    Call me when you want to have an discussion based on an honest set of principles.

    Meanwhile, I will refuse to accept your insults.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh.... you mean "honest" principles like "The USA must be destroyed. "?

    That's what you call "honest"?
     
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    If the Democrats and Liberals did not want to give them free health care, free housing and the like; it would be less of a problem.

    Those not qualifying for refugee status, should be returned to their Country. We American citizens will pay for that but it will be cheaper than supporting them the rest of their lives.

    We need to care for our own. We need to stop paying for private prisons to house illegal criminals. The Democrats need to stop protecting illegals and start supporting our Citizens.

    We need to stop putting drug addicted citizens in Prison, but then turn private Prisons into drug treatment Centers.

    Non-violent offenders should be released from prison and jail to a treatment facility. Their record wiped clean so they can get a job and resume with their life. People with addictions are not criminals. I guarantee you they want help. But once entrapped in the system, even pArents will!ing to pay for a treatment program cannot because the probation programs don't allow it.

    Most Court orders require probation that is costlt, drug tests that are costly and do nothing to help the individ.

    it makes money for the State, County; does nothing for the addicted. And, makes money for the drug treAtment programs, many run by ex-offenders. Many a!lowing the offender to get drugs. These programs paid by tax payers.

    The courts should release offenders with addictions to DEAL programs when their family can pay..

    In Texas, the SafeP program, standing for safe prison, works far better than the private treatment programs run by past addicts.

    I know, because my 31 year old son was addicted to Prescription drugs. We wanted to get him help but couldn't because the Texas law let the court continue to postpone his preliminary hearing for two years. ( he was arrested at 29). He never had a chance to plea.
    He died two years later, his life destroyed, unable to keep good jobs for which he was hired once the Corporate Headquarters discovered his pending charge.)

    Mind you he had pain in his knee that he was prescribed a know addictive drug for. And since I have worked in heath care for over 30
    years as my Surgeon Husband,
    We know that there comes a time you have have to cut these drugs off.

    But there are crooked Doctors that partner with crooked Pharmaces that take advantage of these patients.
    YOU can no just cut these patients off! They are addicted. They will try to find substitutes for the drug, illegal ones.

    The Government knows this. Putting an addicted person on monthly drug testing as a part of probation is STUPID.
     
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  18. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You could always stop working towards that goal.

    Why do you hate America? Why do you want to see it destroyed?

    We do bad stuff, but even so, the world would be a worse place without us.

    Don't ask me to believe that you don't want to see America destroyed. I see you working for that with your posts. You created this thread. You are promoting the inundation of this country with welfare seekers and free healthcare seekers. You are promoting the destruction of the values which built this country into the best place in the world to live.

    Don't insult my intelligence.
     
  19. Golem

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    There there, now.... settle down. Your fluids are safe. No monsters in the closet...

    Oh no no.... I wouldn't dare even try to compete with you. You do such an excellent job at that on your own.
     
  20. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, yeah.

    Carry on with your bullshit propaganda.

    I notice that you didn't answer my questions.

    Why do you hate America?

    Why do you work toward its destruction?

    I'm just curious. Is it because of the indoctrination that you recieved? Did you learn the hate from your parents? Peer pressure? Is it some cool factor? Do you see yourself as fighting the forces of some imaginary evil?

    There sure are a few of those on here. They blather on and on about tRUMP and BLOTUS and some führer and make cartoonish posts to promote their misguided hate for our country.

    You all have one thing in common. You are working to destroy the country. I know that you will eventually win. I just hope that I can hide out in my far corner of the country in relative peace, until I die, before you totalitarians take everything from me.
     
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    Why do you hate America? Why do you support a President who is a criminal? A President who meets with a dictator who has threatened to nuke us? And another who has attacked our election system. Why are you OK with foreign governments intervening in an election that our forefathers created to be decided by Americans, and Americans only? Why do you oppose the influx of immigrants who have historically been a great benefit to this country?

    Why do you hate American and want to destroy it?
     
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    Self sufficiency is hardly grounds for immigration.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do you slander the President with unfounded charges of being a criminal?

    Why do you falsley claim that I oppose immigration?

    Your bullshit is tiresome.

    Just gimme some truth. Can you handle truth? Do you know what it is anymore?
     
  24. OldManOnFire

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    Not true at all...everyone has different situation...can't stereotype people...
     
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    The general population cannot afford fresh produce today...produce is some of the most expensive items in a store...
     

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