Stop it! Refugees are NOT a problem!

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  1. Golem

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    A joke, surely?

    Of COURSE it should be. It should be the bare minimum .. just like fluency in English.
     
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    Fresh meat and produce is the cheapest food available anywhere on earth. Every single step in any kind of 'processing' adds cost to the product. You cannot make something cheaper by processing it. If you dispute this, find out how much you're paying for the raw beef by weight (of actual beef in the product, not the additives, fillers, handling, packaging, etc) in processed burgers, compared to a chunk of actual beef. Find out how much in season green beens are per weight compared to the canned variety. Etc etc. Frozen vegetables will sometimes be cheaper, but they don't compare super well when the item is IN SEASON .. at it's cheapest. And we should all be buying only what's in season - that's how you keep costs down, reduce environemental damage, and eat the freshest foods.
     
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    You mean, everyone has a different excuse?
     
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    They are not refugees, they are criminal invaders as soon as they step over the border.

    And they are costing the American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
     
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    $5 for one tomato...$12 for a watermelon...$13 for two pounds of grapes...pot roast $15...and the list goes on and on and on. Meat and produce are the most expensive items in the store...considering common foods...
     
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    When you politicize this issue you can use words like 'excuse' but if you wish to talk facts each person has different capabilities. If a homeless person chooses to be homeless over certain shelter options this is their choice. And I could go one step farther and ask why would a homeless person turn down shelter...I suspect it's because the shelter options were designed more for the city/county than for the homeless person...
     
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    Please provide a reputable link to support your 'hundreds of billions of dollars every year' statement?
     
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    Good grief. You may want to move somewhere more normal.
     
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    Actually it’s laziness and lack of knowledge of how to cook. If you don’t mind me asking, where does a tomato cost $5?
     
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    And it's laziness which stops people acquiring the knowledge to cook.
     
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    Our prices here aren't much better than that (apart from the $5 tomato, which doesn't happen anywhere but Tokyo in winter), and it's STILL cheaper to buy raw ingredients than processed 'food-like' products. Here's how it's done:

    * don't buy ANY produce which is not in season and abundant (and therefore at it's cheapest)
    * obtain your proteins via lentils, beans, low sodium canned tuna, eggs, etc
    * make the bulk of every meal rice/potatoes and vegetables
    * don't eat meat
    * if you MUST have meat, buy beef bones by the bag. I can get them in my very expensive country for $5 for a 2kg (5lbs ish) bag. alternatively, buy frozen chicken carcasses (these should be no more than about $1 a piece).
    * if that kind of meat is too peasantish for you .. you're not poor, stop complaining.

    * don't buy soda
    * don't buy juice
    * don't buy cookies
    * don't buy snack foods
    * if this is too austere for you, you're not poor, stop complaining.
     
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    The problem is the Leftists' Orwellian NewSpeak attack on our language.

    They are NOT "REFUGEES". They are not fleeing as an ethnic group from targeted persecution.
     
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    Sure, but we're only discussing able bodied adults between the ages of 16 and 66. And by able bodied I mean capable of basic function like sitting upright, communicating, etc.

    And homeless people turn down shelter accommodation all the time. They don't like shelters because shelters have rules (just like any living situation which involves other humans). These people are CHOOSING to be sociopaths, who refuse to make the changes needed to live peaceably with others. You should not waste a split second of sympathy on them. They want to be homeless. Don't listen to their words, observe their actions! Words are cheap and easy, effort isn't.
     
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    And even if they were, the internationally recognised definiation of asylum is the NEAREST safe harbour. And that's rarely (if ever) further than a neighbouring nation. Anyone who has traversed one or more nations, is therefore not an asylum seeker.
     
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    Leftists only follow the laws that forward their ideology.

    If we had their way, we would have no country, no borders.
     
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    That's almost certainly the key to them losing the election. If they do, that'll be why.
     
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    What's in season, locally grown, and can't sit on the shelves too long before being thrown out can get very very cheap. I would also add that knowing what grows wild can be the cheapest. Dandelions are edible, and can be found in almost every front yard these days. Then there are things that most Americans don't want to eat, but certainly can be eaten. Grasshoppers are just chock full of protein, but for some reason, Americans don't eat them. Seaweed, hell... even tarantulas are edible so long as you remove their venom glands. For the city slickers who say they can't get out into the country, the downtown areas are filled with fresh squab, and insects are eaten all over the world. We eat honey, which is pretty gross when you think about it.

    https://edibug.wordpress.com/list-of-edible-insects/

    So there, I have solved the hunger crisis!
     
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    It's actually possible to live on VERY little money, even in a city. Check out some of these Frugals on YT, who feed families of 4 or 5 on $50 a week, etc. I even found one who feeds 4 on $100 per month. I guarantee none of them are buying processed or packaged foods, fast food, soda, or regular meat (it's either whatever fish or mammal they've caught and killed, or no meat at all).
     
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    In what way does the fact that somebody sends money to Mexico impede us from putting money back in to the system?

    If this is your concern, I'm sure you're livid about how billionaires and big corporations have received tax breaks that never came back into the system. And you could start a petition for an amendment so that anybody who invests off-shore be deprived of their citizenship and deported to... some remote island in the Pacific.

    I know this is not your idea. I'm sure you heard it from some extremist blogger or from some shock-jock wingnut. I don't know who you got it from but I can tell you for sure that, whoever that is, it's a white supremacist of the worst kind.
     
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    It's not about US putting money in to the system, Jesus Bro, it's about them taking it out of the system and applying it to another countries economy.. WTF you think all those resident in Mexico are doing with the money they receive from migrant and illegal migrant workers in the U.S.? Buying American LMFAO?

    This is clearly not you forte is it, no wonder you didn't want to discuss it ;)
     
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    Because that money sent to Mexico is not put back in our system.
     
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    Why should we care?
     

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