Study: Universal Background Checks in California Did Not Reduce Homicides

To make UBCs happen? Not their job. Increased prosecution of straw purchasers is not happening, registration at the federal level is illegal and the Democrats won't allow an easier gun transfer process (google "Tom Coburn background check").

 

the specious schemes of universal background checks are designed to fail-so the proponents can scream they need UNIVERSAL REGISTRATION in order to make that crap work

 

I thought ruckers point was that these things needed to be done

Are you saying that all ruckers ideas are already law in cs

 

Let me repeat myself:
California has all of these things, and they continually fail to stop anyone who wants a gun from getting one.
So, again... looking at California and the failure of its laws... what's left to try?

 

I'm saying that this is what the DOJ says has to happen for a UBC to be effective. The criminal justice system has no interest in reducing straw purchases; registration is illegal, and would fail if attempted anyway; and the Democratic lawmakers aren't interested in a easy transfer process.

 

No they don't

 

Especially when people post from Breitbart or Daily Kos. If it were up to me there would be a perma ban for posting sites like those.

 

Good idea. Lets get moving on UNIVERSAL REGISTRATION.

 

Hummmm. Why is that the case i wonder?

Hummmm why is this the case i wonder?

Hummm if they were interested how would it improve anything?

 

So

So, violate the 1st to achieve your end goals. Got it. Are the 4th, 5th, and 10th amendments disposable as well?

 

You have no free speech rights on this forum. If you cite shitty sites then you should be perma banned.

 

What's so terrible about registration?

 

Such is already in place in the state of California. And yet the majority of firearms found in the possession of prohibited individuals, as per the findings of the ATF, were acquired within the state of California to begin with.

 

1. It would never be universal. We know that prohibited persons would not register any guns illegally possessed, nor could they be arrested for failing to do so. We've seen in efforts in the UK, Germany and Canada that even those who are legally allowed to own guns won't register a significant portion of their guns. It could cost billions of dollars for a system that fails to do what it is supposed to do, like Canada's.
2. It won't stop or significantly reduce straw purchases. A new gun purchase is de facto registered to the buyer via the serial number on the Form 4473, yet the straw purchaser still sells or gives the gun to a prohibited person even with a 10 year prison sentence at stake.
3. Registration would be used in any confiscation efforts to take guns away from non-prohibited persons. We've already seen this effort at the state level.

 

Likewise from VPC, Moms, any study funded by Bloomberg, etc.

 

History has demonstrated that registration is the first step to confiscation.

 

What shitty sites have I cited?

 

I don't think so. You register your car, has anyone come and taken it away? Of course not.

 

Has anyone ever tried to pass a law banning cars? Did the UK and Australia use their registries to help in their gun confiscations?

 

You register this.........



.......and it gives you far more freedom than a gun.

 

Not in D.C. People who had registered their handguns prior to D.C.'s ban in the 1970's were allowed to keep them. So registration resulted in the opposite of confiscation.

 

Registrations doesn't always lead to confiscation, but it's a necessary step for successful confiscation.

 

And guns remain as easy for criminals to obtain as pizza regardless of any gun control laws including gun bans.

The law abiding victims of criminal predators are the only ones restricted by these absurd gun control schemes.

 

This is registered for tax revenue purposes. GCAs want to register guns for supposed crime prevention purposes.

 

For now.

Study history and you will see many registration schemes have been used to confiscate firearms.