Study: Universal Background Checks in California Did Not Reduce Homicides

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  1. ECA

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    But even without a warrant, police can search your home in four specific circumstances that courts have outlined.

    1. When police have your permission. If an officer asks to come in and do a search, and you or someone else who lives in the house says yes, there's little you can do. Even if you aren't there and your roommate lets the police in, it's still a legal search.
    2. Something is in plain view. If police can see illegal activity or unlawful items, like drugs or weapons, from their vantage point while standing outside your house, they can go in and search the property.
    3. Pursuant to arrest. Right after someone is arrested, police can search the area for weapons, evidence, and accomplices. If you're arrested at home, that means police can do a reasonable search of the property.
    4. During an emergency. Like most legal provisions, there's an exception for emergencies. If someone's life or health is in danger, or police are in "hot pursuit" of a suspect, then they can search the house as part of that investigation.
     
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    If there is no evidence that could be found in the home relatedto a crime you do not get the warrant
     
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    Notice it says if you are arrested at home
     
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    What part of...”But even without a warrant, police can search your home in four specific circumstances that courts have outlined.”
    Are you not getting???
     
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    What part of if.....if.....you are arrested at home are you not getting?
     
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    Oh I get that you said a search can’t be done without a warrant but I proved you to be wrong. A search can be done without a warrant :)
     
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    Yes....only if.....if.....you are arrested at home.....right?
     
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    Did California provide crime data to the feds? Yes.

    Was this study about California? Yes.

    Does migration of criminals from states not fully reporting to the federal database playa major role in California crime? No.

    Your excuse FAILS.
     
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    What does that matter? You were wrong. Accept it and move on. ;)
     
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    Once they get a warrant.
     
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    I accept your concession. Lol
     
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    Yes, I concede you were proven wrong.
     
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    That's funny. Lol
     
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    In Florida domestic violence gives LEO's two avenues, one is if the victim has residence in the home a search can be granted by the victim, if not the LEO can use the victims statement of domestic violence involving a firearm to get a search warrant.
     
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    The registration of legally owned firearms does nothing, absolutely nothing, to assist law enforcement in any way, shape, or fashion.
     
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    Not true in every state though
     
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    I object because registration lists register the person. Such list have already been used to politically intimidate gun owners and can be readily weaponized to harass and intimidate political opposition which is the primary reason conservative groups oppose it.
    The left claims a UBC would keep guns from bad guys and save lives, but when it is suggested by responsible gun owner to open the NICS to private citizens to use it to insure they are not transferring a gun to a criminal that proposal is rejected for spurious reasons because the object is to use an UBC as leverage to resind current law preventing a registry... the object being not to save lives, but ultimately to identify gun owners. Even the sensible proposal by Tom Coburn was rejected for the same spurious objections.
    http://usat.ly/12yF9Ev
    If the left was really interested in saving lives you’d expect they’d be happy to take a step in that direction, but they don’t. Why? The answer is obvious.
     
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    You are registered to vote. Clear precedent that a right can be registered
     
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    My voter registration doesn’t reveal any political preference that can be used against me.
     
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    It reveals your name and address. And party preference is noted on most registrations. It is in my state
     
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    There is no party preference linked to registration in my state and that is not the norm. Nobody’s business.
     
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    It is the norm. Many states require it to be able to vote in a primary.

    Rights and registration......hand in hand
     
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    No one is compelled to list political affiliation when registering to vote, unless they the wish to vote in a closed primary. I never have voted in a closed primary, but have in every general election and never have listed my party affiliation in any State I have resided. No one knows my party affiliation and most guess wrong.
     
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    You are required to list political party if you want to vote in some elections. That is a fact you can not deny

    Game, set and match
     
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    Only closed primary elections which have as an objective to select candidates to represent specific parties in general elections. If you don’t vote in closed elections you are not required to list your affiliation. Lose a lot of games, don’t you? That and moving goal posts which you did in this instance.
     

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