The European / Syrian Refugee crisis

We also know they should be taken in by the other nations in the region instead. We dont need to import ISIS to our shores.

 

Other countries who counseled against the war on Iraq should take in the refugees?

 

Yes, it's their neighborhood and their people. We didnt go to war with Syria, and they arent our problem.

Maybe Russia will take them.

 

Really? Who made ISIS possible in which country again and who is responsible that they exist at all ... and who was so incompetent to fight them down please?

 

None of this means we need to take in Syrian refugees. Sorry, we've got enough of the worlds flotsam, and dont wan't any more. You guys on the same Island can have them, enjoy the Terrorists who will hide among them.

 

Nice reaction ... causing a criminal war in 2003 against Iraq, creating a mess in the complete region after and being incompetent to have any clue and idea and plan for the time after military victory ... creating with this incompetence the ISIS and other terrorists ... being so totally stupid to support in Syria everyone and everything who is fighting Assad and to make a high on it - to support ISIS too ... causing with this the refugees ...

AND THEN TELLING NOT OUR PROBLEM???

This is now the high of impertinence to read ... but OK, then please build around your country a wall, let no one in, but stay behind the wall and don't get out please too!

 

Thats funny, coming from someone in Germany. I notice you didnt create Israel within the boundaries of your nation for all those Jews....

Anyway, the bolded is precisely what I'd like to do. We used to be an isolationist nation, and I wish we were again. Let the word do whatever it wishes, but know that if anyone screws with us, we'll nuke them into dust.

 

True... we planted them in Palestine against all prudent advice.

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Great comment. The nearest statement of truth of many on this forum. Thanks.

 

No Jewish Nation on German territory? Well, this was a plan by the allies to do and honestly I would had nothing against this ... but unfortunately Hitler and his scum did a well job with their mass-murdering and those Jews who survived this, didn't want this to have.

And yes... since the internal issues of the USA after civil war were done too (against natives), the USA went above their borders and isolation was over under Teddy Roosevelt. The whish to interest more for them own was and is in the USA always given in parts of population. But unfortunately the world of today isn't that of 1890. But this is another theme.

 

Mandelus, I agree we shouldn't have invaded Iraq when we did, but most of the Democratic leadership, excluding Obama voted for the invasion. After massive mistakes, the Bush administration implemented the Surge which brought a modicum of stability. Obama and Biden both tried to take credit for the "success" when they with drew most of our forces. Insodoing, they discarded the success they tried to claim. We should have as McCain said, kept troops in Iraq for a generation at least as we did to our enemies after WW11 and Korea. The most expensive part of a war is often repairing the aftermath.

Obama led from behind to encourage the destruction of dictatorships and he left a power vacume. He may have ignored the Syrian civil war to placate Iran and let the nuclear negotiations survive. He stupidly said ISIS was the junior varsity and ignored its spread. Bush has been gone a long time. Our current problem is at Obama's door.

I don't think we should take in refugees until the rich Arab states do their share. We have enough illegal aliens to absorb first.

 

This is the kind of convenient logic on display that I always get a kick out of. And so, we have a U.S. president who lies his way into a war, displacing close to 2 million people out of the country he invaded, creates another civil war and more unrest throughout the entire region as a result of that war, and on post 240, you said it wasn't our responsibility to help the refugees. Now, from post 251, you now say that it is the responsibility of other nations to take them in, as if those other nations are responsible for starting the war with Iraq. I got to hand it to you. Passing the buck off onto everybody else while we are responsible for what happened, and you expect everyone else to pick up our dirty laundry. Gotta love it.

 

No, we created the war with Syria. And the refugees from the Iraq war were there.

 

Passing the buck off onto someone else while we are responsible for what happened. Only a true coward runs from his or her own mistakes, by passing off the responsibility to others. Lol! You make your argument so easy to destroy.

 

We've picked up plenty of the Worlds Dirty laundry as well. Let others pick up these refugees. Heck clean out your savings and fly over there and buy them goods and lodging. I'm sure they'll love you for it.

No need for more flotsam here.

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Except you havent and cant.

You get your ticket yet? Those people are waiting for help.

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Well said.

 

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Like who? And did they ask us to?

Why should they, when we started the whole mess?

Oh, I think the jury decision has already been decided on that. Especially when no one comes to your defense to bail you out of an argument you lost a long time ago.

 

It's irrelevant who created and funded it. The US as occupier is responsible for what went on.
Don't like the responsibility,.. than do not invade.

 

Refugees taken by the US. 07-13 as an example.

http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/statistics/
Keep in mind, these are only the "official" ones. this doesnt count the Millions that skitter across the border that your side wants to pay for as well.

Ahhh...your opinion. It holds no value to me, but you're entitled to it.

Noone comes to the "defense" or the "bailing out" of someone who doesnt need it...IE isnt loosing a debate. I ask for none, and I need none. Ever.

 

Would that the US had occupied Syria, or done anything competent...instead we got Obama, appeasement and surrender

 

Sorry, ISIS is Obama's baby, the rest of your nonsense should simply be ignored if you haven't yet figured that out...

 

Lol! I said dirty laundry. You have 661 for Afghanistan's unnecessary war, you have 36 for Syria that we are responsible for, and only 19,488 out of Irag, where nearly 2 million were displaced because of our unnecessary actions. Hardly any from Central and South America for all the fiasco's we caused down there; http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/, and you want to claim we picked up everyone's dirty laundry? Dream on! We haven't held ourselves accountable for anything, and we are responsible for a majority of the conflicts in the ME today. If it hadn't been for oil, we wouldn't have given those countries the time of day. It's truly pathetic!

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How is it Obama's baby?

 

Dude, that's ancient history. That was before the time when accurate intelligence finally trickled in during 2002, that proved not only were there no WMD's, but we also proved Bush was lying about the intelligence, and ignored the accurate intelligence when it was presented to him.

 

They should take every able bodied male between the ages of 18 - 45 and give them a uniform, a gun, train them and send them back.

Take the women and children and give them a place to live until the conflict is resolved.

 

The cost of one hell strike missile Obama uses to kill an innocent wedding part or an innocent American child, we could build a space place for these people that we are destroying their country just to outs Assad