The European / Syrian Refugee crisis

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Molly David, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Have you?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You seem to think America's involvement in the Middle East began after 9-11. How wrong can you get?
     
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    Unfortunately I have. You?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    No, I have no reason to and, frankly, given the issues at hand I'll do my best to avoid the region. Lebanon has some interesting features though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmOVifcUzi4
     
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    Everyplace Muslims predominate is a craphole. Yet they want to bring that same craphole home to you. Think about that real hard.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    I have Muslim neighbours and, trust me, they are delightful people and live in a very nice house. I also have several Muslim friends. I doubt you met any that you weren't pointing a gun at.
    America also has some serious "crapholes"; many of them occupied by white Christians.
    Nice: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t...Djts7DssM:&usg=__XDvFCLS_mKctCuZdguioh6aS-uc=
     
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    QLB Well-Known Member

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    But they're not trying to kill me or blow me up and there's no comparison to their crapholes. None. Nada. You have no idea.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    My friends aren't trying to kill me or blow me up either. Quit with the paranoia already.
     
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    Famous last words
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No, It really does.

    Congress found no evidence that the intelligence was manipulated.

    Im sorry, facts dont suit you or your assertions.

    have a nice day
     
  11. Pred

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    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From your link:
    "An eye-witness account from Kamil Bulonis, a Polish travel blog writer, who was present on the Italian-Austrian border on September 5, 2015, as swarms of Third World nonwhites poured across the border to invade Austria and Germany (A translation from Polish): (Please note: all pictures from the Hungarian-Austrian border)."
    Third World nonwhites fleeing the mass murder inflicted on their states by (mostly) white-skinned elites in the US and UK have no moral responsibility for the wars of aggression that plunged the Middle East into chaos.
    http://newobserveronline.com/third-world-invasion-eye-witness-description-september-5-2015/#comments
     
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    That's his opinion. Assuming Muslim and ME culture was advanced enough to get along with the rest of the world, we probably wouldn't have to stick our noses in there as often, but considering how much oil they control, its a bit hard to just STAY OUT. Its not like THEY could even get the oil out of the ground with us. Call it all a happy accident they got lucky enough to be sitting on top of it and a big JOKE on the rest of the world.

    I was more concerned with the garbage left behind, and especially the food since they're all "starving". Not to mention numerous videos of how often the Red Cross and others are being spat on and supplies kicked away like garbage. Like I said, THIS is the kind of future citizen we want? EU doesn't want it.
     
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    You're saying those running for their lives from a war of aggression they played no part in initiating should pick up their litter and be more polite to locals?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression#The_Nuremberg_Principles
    "During the (Nuremberg) trial, the chief American prosecutor, Robert H. Jackson, stated:
    To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."
    There would be no refugee crisis affecting Europe today without the War of Aggression launched against Iraq in 2003 by the US government. Blaming the victims of that supreme international crime makes as much sense as blaming Jews for Auschwitz.
     
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    When you start you thread with lies, why would anyone want to take part in it?
     
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    wars for oil created this, all countries buying oil should house them.
     
  17. Marine1

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    Agree, ISIS came out of the war with Iraq. BUT, you can blame Obama for them being what they are today. Iraq asked Obama when ISIS first came down from Syria for airpower to fight them. Obama refused. Called them a bunch of Jr. Varsities playing soldier. If Obama had given airpower to Iraq, there would be no ISIS. He could have wiped their convoy out, right from the start but he didn't. Didn't touch them till they took over half of Iraq after American heads came off and public pressure forced him to make a token response. He also helped take out the government of Libya and then walked away from it allowing it to fall into the hands of ISIS. So while I'll agree that the creation of ISIS is on Bush's war, it's Obama that allowed them to become what they have and the world is going to suffer big time from it.
     
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    ISIS_CIA_Convoy.jpg
    "Image: ISIS began its invasion into Iraqi territory from NATO-member Turkey, through Syria and riding in Toyota Hilux trucks - identical to those provided to 'moderates' by the US State Department as part of multi-million dollar 'non-lethal' aid packages.

    "ISIS did not take these trucks from 'moderates,' the moderates never existed to begin with.

    "From the beginning, it was the West's plan to raise a mercenary army of sectarian extremists operating under the banner of Al Qaeda..."

    "It is clear that ISIS did not materialize from sand dunes in Iraq's northern region, nor are they procuring immense armories of weaponry by picking Kalashnikovs from date trees. They are the visible materialization of years of material support openly reported by the Western media allegedly sent to 'moderate rebels' who do not exist.

    "If they did exist, there has been no plausible explanation to account for how ISIS has managed to procure more weapons, cash, fighters, and influence throughout the region than 'moderates' receiving backing from the combined resources of the US, Europe, Turkey, the Saudis, Qataris, and Jordanians."
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/08/isis-region-wide-genocide-portended-in.html
    I'm not sure if the convoy pictured above is the one you're referring to; however, there have been numerous reports of an IS convoy large enough to see from space that could have been vaporized if the US had chosen to do so. It would seem every president since Carter has had reasons to protect and enhance the forces of radical Islam?
     
  19. Pollycy

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    Maybe the most direct answer to your question is that the Germans, under increasingly useless Chancellor Angela Merkel, decided to throw their borders wide open and say, "Come one -- come all! We aren't Nazis anymore -- SEE?!" :cheerleader::truce::banana::deadhorse:

    After pulling a stunt like that, even though it only lasted about three days before the outraged German public went wild, as far as I'm concerned, the Germans OWN whatever happens to them now! If they're going to elect leaders as stupid as Merkel, so willing to swamp Germany with hordes of Syrians and whoever else comes barging in, then so be it! Even a 14 year-old girl knows that when you just lie there like a blithering idiot and spread your legs, lots of bad things can happen to you!

    [​IMG] "We get it, Angela... you're not a Nazi... you're just STOOPID."
     
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    Saddam invaded Kuwait, killed people, stole the Oil thy were selling to Italy everyday, and then, he burned the fields when the USA opposed his take over.

    Then 17 times that UN notified Saddam that he was breaking the Peace Treaty he made with America, and shooting at our planes.

    You must believe America should have taken that treatment and done nothing, I suppose?
     
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    What will happen now is what Jeremiah predicted:

    Jer 30:11 For I am with you, (my Jews), to save you (after Holocaust), declares the Lord; I will make a full end of all the nations among whom I scattered you, but of you I will not make a full end (in Holocaust). I will discipline you (in Holocaust), in just measure, and I will by no means leave you unpunished.

    (I assume America and England are excluded here)
     

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