The fog of war

Yes, I do. Trump no more caused the rioting than the US caused Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor or caused al-Qaeda to murder almost 3000 people.

 

"Backing down?"
You don't have any "articles" of facts that you haven't misrepresented and distorted. You hate Trump, and you can't see or hear anything else. It's personal, personality- not genuine, except to you. I understand that. But don't lie to yourself and tell yourself you are rational or fair about it. That only make it uglier. It's useless to argue that kind of mindset.

 

It's typical enabler behavior to justify the violence of abusers.

 

I'm a moderate conservative - I've been both Democrat and Republican in my lifetime - other than FDR and Ron Reagan, Trump is the only politician who gave a damned about me and mine.

You say that you are a moderate conservative, but everything that you write screams liberal democrat - or maybe liberal Republican in the Rockefeller tradition

In my opinion, you're a duck!

 

Yes it's very easy to prove, just open your eyes. At least ponder the thought that the dems have deceived you, and they are the ones lying. The quicker you figure that out, the more respect you will save for yourself. Now, pay attention to what is truly going on.

 

The treasonous left chose to forge a dossier that would have Trump accused of colluding with Russian intel, in an attempt to rig the elections. So the exact thing they're claiming Trump did, is what they're doing. Do you need any more than that?

HELLO! Is anybody home? McFly, hello Mcfly, is anybody in there Mcfly?

 

What's going on, is so far from what most think. And even those on the right track are missing some things. The following is only 2:39 (2 min 39 sec), what do you think?



If you have time.



In the end, what is written in the Bible will become more and more clear. All roads lead to Rome.

If you're not going watch this one, at least notice who is sitting where!

 

Trump doesn't cause the actions of people, they are responsible for their own actions. I mean if somebody is purposely trying to trigger you, and it works, who actually loses? If one is to show what it is that triggers them, people will use that and trigger them.

It's very easy to trigger or sway democrats/libs into any desired direction or reaction. As we can clearly see with Hillary.

Side note: When I say democrat, it's not really a democrat, at least by definition. Democrats today are Godless people, who love everything but the truth!

 

I find it fascinating that the only way Trump fans can defend Trump is to ignore reality.

During the months and days leading up to Dec. 6th, there was no rioting in Palestine or anywhere else regarding Middle East issues. On Dec. 6th, Trump made is foolhardy decision, declaring unilaterally that the U.S. says Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

Immediately afterward the rioting began and people began to die just like I said in the OP. Hundreds have been injured in violent protests from Palestine to Indonesia. It all began right after Trump's announcement.

Yet, this Trump fan says, "Trump no more caused the rioting than the US caused Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor."

 

You said, "Who for some time now (at least back to JFK), have been plotting criminal and treasonous behavior, in an attempt to what seems like, destroy America in a manner that will allow them to bring in their much fantasized world of a NWO (new world order)."

Then you claim that these videos prove your statement. They do not. They have more to do with the Vatican than the left. What you provided was pure nonsense.

You are a conspiracy theorist.

 

I find it fascinating that people are so partisan and biased they perceive any correction as that of being enemy "Trump fans". Sorry, sweetheart but I think Trump is a ****ing moron. The only good thing about him is he beat Hillary as the least deplorable candidate.

Drop the scales from your eyes, dear. You're blinding yourself.

 

First you say, "Trump no more caused the rioting than the US caused Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor." That sure sounds like you are defending Trump. It was a highly illogical statement that only could have come from a Trump fan. But, then, you say:

Well, which is it, sweetheart, are you defending Trump or calling him "a ****ing moron?" I am sure you can understand my confusion.

What is this "sweetheart" and "dear" crap? I've been called a lot of things, but never "sweetheart" and "dear," and what my wife calls me is none of your damn business.

 

To say that the decisions made by the President of the U.S. doesn't cause actions from other people is simply ludicrous. You do know Trump is our President, right? Your statement implies that you didn't know.

That is true. It is also true of Trump, but he is completely silent on the repercussions he caused. People are dead and hundreds have been injured as a result of his decision.

The U.S. stands alone on the U.N. Security Council. CNN reports, "exercising its veto power at the United Nations for the first time, the Trump administration torpedoed a Security Council resolution critical of the White House's unilateral recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley cast the veto, blocking the resolution, introduced by Egypt, despite the 14 other members of the Security Council voting in favor."

I suppose now you are going to tell me Trump didn't cause the actions of the people on the Security Council.

I am not interested in your weird views of Democrats. They have nothing to do with this thread and I simply don't care.

 

Oh, I fully understand it. If the Palestinians want to riot and die, that is their choice. It seems like that is what they do a lot of anyway. It is their choice to deny reality.

 

It sounds like you're a democrat!! That last little bit, "I simply don't care". Must be a dem/lib!!

 

It's a script, Trump says America recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capitol. Than China says, east Jerusalem should be the Palestine's. So know we have two world leaders calling for a division, and they are doing it on purpose. It's all been in the making for some time now, why do you feel all governments are not responsible?

 

Let's change the subject. We've beat Trump's decision to death, there is nothing new to add, and there is a brand new thread on the subject with a new twist, Trump's threat. Please see: http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jerusalem-question.521745/#post-1068426542

Now on to the new topic. It is in keeping with the title of this thread. Politics is a form of war.

Trump is an avid conspiracy theorist. Nearly all of his musings are entertaining and some are downright funny. In many cases it is hard to believe the President is serious.

Trump built his political career on a conspiracy theory: The false claim that Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States. Others would include:

Climate change was a Chinese hoax.

Russian meddling in our election is a witch hunt and a Democratic hoax.

Trump believes that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election.

Ted Cruz’s father might have played a role in the Kennedy assassination.

I could go on, but the reader gets my point.

Like father like son. This is incredible, coming from the son of the President of the United States.

The Hill reports, "Donald Trump Jr., the oldest son of President Trump, on Tuesday reportedly argued that the Russia investigation shows there are individuals “at the highest levels of government that don’t want to let America be America.”

"In comments reported by CNN, Trump Jr. slammed what he perceives as a bias within the FBI and the special counsel's office, which is conducting a probe into Russia’s election meddling and any potential ties between Trump campaign staff members and Moscow.

"The president’s son, citing anti-Trump text messages sent by an FBI agent formerly working on the Russia probe, said “there'd be revolution in the streets” if this happened to former President Obama."

Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor, is a life-long Republican. Rod Rosenstein, the deputy in the DOJ who appointed Mueller, is a Republican. Jeff Sessions, who heads the DOJ, is a Republican. Christopher Wray heads the FBI and he is a Republican. Rosenstein, Sessions, and Wray were all appointed by Junior's dad.

Yet Junior is telling us that there is a conspiracy "at the highest levels of our government" to remove his dad from the Oval Office.

As for the agent Junior mentioned, four months ago Mueller found out about the anti-Trump texts to the agent's girlfriend and demoted the agent off his staff, which only goes to prove how fair and impartial Mueller is.

I will allow the reader to makes his/her own judgment as to Junior's intelligence.

General Michael Hayden (Ret.), who served as Director of the NSA and the CIA, reacted to Donald Trump Jr.by saying, Trump Jr.’s statement is “a little scary. I mean, that is an appeal to the heart of autocracy. And challenging the patriotism of those folks who work in the United States government, look, we’ve got good institutions in this country. They’re imperfect. They make mistakes. We have imperfect people who send messages they shouldn’t send. But that in no way undercuts of these institutions. And we’re now seeing a constant attack, not just from the administration, but…from other members of the Republican Party attacking the institutions of American government. it’s those institutions, the rule of law, the processes that keep us a free people.”