The Gun Industry Should Send The Parkland Three A Gift Basket For Record Gun Sales in March

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is true, just like some republicans that want to get rid of the First Amendment and turn us into a Christian Theocracy - neither will ever succeed in taking away our rights
     
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    Firearms operating at full auto (i.e. machine guns) simply waste ammunition unless they're belt fed & ammo consumption is of little consequence but the deadliest mass killers use simple home made bombs(1),(2) or Molotov Cocktails (3).

    A determined mass killer will kill with or without a so called assault weapon & as bombs have proven deadlier per incident than any mass shooting we can expect mass killers to resort to bombs if & when AR-15s etc become difficult to get.

    What DOES deserve our attention is not the choice of weapons but detecting & treating mass killers before they kill.






    (1) "Top 10 deadliest bombings on U.S. soil"
    http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2013/04/top_10_deadliest_bombings_on_u.html
    EXCERPT "April 19, 1995: A car bomb parked outside the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City kills 168 people and injures more than 500. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols are convicted."CONTINUED


    (2) "The 1927 Bombing That Remains America’s Deadliest School Massacre"
    "Ninety years ago, a school in Bath, Michigan was rigged with explosives in a brutal act that stunned the town"
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...chool-massacre-180963355/#KSipwm4IUrIbB9uc.99

    EXCERPTS "In the end 44 people died, 38 of them students. It wasn’t the first bombing in the country’s history—at least eight were killed during the Haymarket Square rally in Chicago in 1886, and 30 when a bomb exploded in Manhattan in 1920. But none had been so deadly as this, or affected so many children."CONTINUED



    (3) "Happy Land fire"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire
    EXCERPT "González went to an Amoco gas station, then returned to the establishment with a plastic container with $1 worth of gasoline.[2][4] He spread the fuel at the base of a staircase, the only access into the club, and then ignited the gasoline.[5]
    Eighty-seven people died in the resulting fire."CONTINUED
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you have to resort to cheap insults, you are less than competent to discuss the issue. If you are unable to control your emotions, you should not have access to guns. (Or sharp objects!)

    What you call an "AR style weapon" is only a look. They are no more or less lethal than any other semi auto. If you would rather parade your ignorance than discuss the issue of second amendment rights, go right ahead.
     
  4. QLB

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    Machine guns are already hard to get. What's your point?
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you agree they should be... are you the left? are you against the 2nd?

    that is my point, you can be against easy access to machine guns and still support the 2nd like I do

    I believe every free American should have the right to own a gun to protect their homes and families, just not machine guns
     
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    The OP said otherwise, that it was a figment of our imagination that people wanted to take our guns. I agree that it won't succeed. My only point was that there are democrats out there (and some in the government) that want to take away guns.
     
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    Full auto weapons have been involved in crimes a handful of times with fingers left over. And frankly they should open up the sale of full auto's if you pass the muster in owning them.
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, there are some, most just want common sense gun laws, but yes I 100% agree, some are extreme and want "No Guns" which is ridiculous and would be bad for America
     
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    but you do not think it should be a "Right" to own the full auto for every America... you think it should be a privilege for those that "pass the muster in owning them", I can agree with you there
     
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    If liberals read the 2nd the way they read the rest of the constitution, this is exactly what would happen.
     
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    If you can legally own a firearm, there's no sound reason you should not able to legally own a full-auto firearm.
    There's also no sound reason the restriction on the legal ownership of a full auto firearm should be any more greater than for a 'standard' firearm.
     
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    I disagree, I think there is valid reasons for restricting machine guns, but not other guns

    but your making my point.. a few on the right want even machine guns legal for everyone, and a few on the left want no guns for anyone.. most of us are somewhere in the middle
     
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    That is actually a false assumption. The truth is it is many gun owners will not acknowledge they own guns because they do not want others especially the government to know. The truth is, in America 90% of gun crimes are committed with illegally obtained guns. I guarantee that not a single one of them would admit to owning a gun.
     
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    really, what else is free

    freedom of religion doesn't mean you get to have your religion funded by the tax payers?

    freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to have your website or media company paid for by the tax payers?

    right to own a gun doesn't mean the tax payer has to buy you a gun
     
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    Why would anyone with a working brain think banning guns would work? They banned alcohol in the 20's. How did that turn out? At the present time illegal aliens, marijuana, opiates, meth, coke, child porn, prostitution, speeding, drunken driving, theft and thousands of other things are banned. How are any of them working? In truth, organized crime would love nothing more than another ban, that is how they make their money.
     
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    The list of social benefits paid for by the federal government is too long to list.
     
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    All semi auto firearms can be converted to full auto or made to bounce against the trigger finger (Like a bump stock)
     
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    I'll have to try that with my Savage 6A. Thing must be a zillion years old.
     
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    That is nonsense of course unless one is paranoid enough to believe the pollsters give info to the government. And if one is stupid enough to believe that nonsense this is the Trump pro gun administration which makes that paranoia even more stupid!
     
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    Not a cheap insult. If you can't actually shoot with any skill you need that kind of weapon. It is a gun aimed at morons with no skill who like to pretend to be military.
     
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    My 10/22 is "that kind of weapon" yet you do not besmirch it... Why?
     
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    Not really, Ain't no mass murderer going to use that toy.
     
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    Semi auto rifle capable of firing 50 rounds or more before reloading. And a 10/22 is no toy. If it isn't the ammo capacity or semi auto capability that makes a rifle "that kind of weapon", what does?

    Serious question.
     
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    Kinetic energy!
     
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    Then why bemoan an entire platform if your issue is calibre? An AR in .22 will have the same performance my 10/22 does.

    Serious question.
     

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