The Insurrection That Wasn't Until It Was

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they were trying to over turn an election
     
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    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    In order for it to be insurrection you have to try people for insurrection let alone find them guilty of such. As not one single person has been charged with insurrection your argument is invalid
     
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    Around a third of all murders go unsolved in the US iirc. Since no one has been charged does that mean no murder happened?

    Many of the BLM riots ended without any charges. Does that mean it wasn’t actually a riot?

    Do you see how pathetic this line of reasoning is?
     
  4. zalekbloom

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    President Trump is a GENIUS!
    Violent mob broke into the Capitol trying to change democratically elected president and he convinced some gullible Americans that the importance of this event "was exaggerated".
    Genius!
     
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  5. LangleyMan

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    There is NO EXCUSE for anyone rioting.

    Canada got it right...

    "Reading proclamation

    Corrections and Conditional Release Act, or that person’s deputy,

    who receives notice that, at any place within the jurisdiction of the person, twelve or more persons are unlawfully and riotously assembled together shall go to that place and, after approaching as near as is safe, if the person is satisfied that a riot is in progress, shall command silence and thereupon make or cause to be made in a loud voice a proclamation in the following words or to the like effect:

    Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business on the pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to imprisonment for life. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN."

    https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-10.html
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Pence is a wuss.
     
  7. Bastiats libertarians

    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    Yes if someone is murdered and nobody is convicted that means they can’t prove they were murdered. Innocent until proven guilty. For example OJ Simpson is not a murderer because he was found innocent of the charge of murder. Many of the blm protest were in fact not riots. So yea that is valid.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    Your gaslighting doesn't help one bit.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01846-z
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    Good to see you think this guy is okay.

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    Denying certification wouldnt have overturned the election.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    It's not okay. The perps should be arrested and prosecuted. This was a disgrace...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protest

    There was no excuse for letting anyone take over part of a city.

    Loot, burn, rob or assault people, including police? You should be arrested and prosecuted. Civil authorities should ensure law enforcement has enough resources to keep order.
     
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    they thought it would, some still hate Pence as they think it would of

    just cause they were stupid doesn't mean they did not try
     
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    No it makes the 6th the same as all the BLM/ANTIFA riots. Well, minus the destruction of property and arson.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    You have to prove it. So far nothing.
    Get rid of Trump if you want to have credibility.
     
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    I've long thought his rhetoric was irresponsible and could lead people to feel it's okay to act out. Is there direct incitement as was the case with Trump?
     
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    What's genius is in calling a mostly peaceful protest and insurrection while, at the same time, not even being able to charge anyone with insurrection.
     
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    Look, I think, for the most part, you and I actually agree on this. My bone to pick is with the rest of the left who gave all the summer long rioters a pass, set a precedent that you can do these things and get away with it, and then wanting to come down hard on the Capitol rioters and not the summer long rioters. I'm fine with throwing the book at all of them. But we aren't doing that. We're only throwing the book at the Capitol rioters.
     
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    Pence knows how he felt about what happened and other people can't force him to think their thoughts.
     
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    But, as I said, most of the left allowed it to happen, refused National Guard help, the wall of moms gave cover to the summer rioters, and many on the left bailed out the ones arrested.
     
  20. independentthinker

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    The two were roughly the same. People such as Bernie and Trump and others are going to say things and they shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of nuts on their side. Trump didn't "instigate" any more than Bernie did. In fact, since Bernie's follower actually shot up Republicans and Trump's followers actually didn't really hurt anyone, you could easily argue that Bernie instigated more than Trump did. So what if Trump questioned election results and went around screaming the election was fraudulent and stolen? The Democrats did that for four years.
     
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    Only a true genius can convince gullible Americans that the Jan 6 insurrection was a 'mostly peaceful protest'.
    Why 'gullible Americans'? Because the genius has the same legal evidence of the election fraud, as I have the evidence that Melania owns me $100 millions.

    Genius!
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    In fact, many of the perps have been arrested and prosecuted.
    These idiots should be met with sufficient police forces.
     
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    An insurrection is not an insurrection if no one is charged with insurrection. Even the abuse of power by Democrats can't even find enough evidence to charge anyone with insurrection.
     
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    Oh really? Maybe you can link to all the House investigations and charges brought by Congress for trying to overrun a federal court house and actually taking over swaths of territory from the US. Where are the House investigations of those on the left who instigated these activities?
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    You have to be specific about what Bernie did. As I said, I think his rhetoric can get pretty extreme.

    Trump did incite his crowd to march down to the Capitol. He even suggested he would join them.
    Huh?
    It's a disgusting lie and one that makes him unfit for the job.
     

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