Gladly. About Hadrian: Source'1: http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bibl...arabia-kadesh-barnea-shur-herodotus-484bc.htm Source'2: http://www.ancient.eu/hadrian/
The map you are showing here, is a map of Lebanon, as it states at the top left of the map. And yes, Phonecia was in what we called today Lebanon, but the Philistines were in the area of Gaza. Does according to you the Philistines are "Palestinians"? If so, then it means that the origin of the "Palestinians" is from the Agean Sea (Greece). Are you saying that the "Palestianins" are Greeks? The Phoenicians were Semites, the Phlistines werent. So all maps before 1920 called Lebanon "Palestine"? After all your map shows the area of Lebanon.
Yes I actually do have for this one. Here you go: As you can read, in Hebrew, under the word in English, it states "פלשתינה (א"י", and if you dont know Hebrew, in English you write it as "Paleastina (The Land of Israel)". א"י = Eretz Ysrael = The Land of Israel.
The Philstines were sea people from island in the Aegean ... What you refer to as Israel was called Palestine until 1920.. The coastal area which included the north coast Canaanites (Ugarit), Gaza and Gath was Phoenicia and later Lebanon. When the sea people began arriving on the coast a lot of Canaanites moved into the hill country of Syria-Palestine.
From 135 AD the name of the Land of Israel was "Syria-Palestine", and later on the word "Syria" was dropped out of the name. Therefore, if the area was called "Syria-Palestine" until 1920, as you clerify it later on in your post, then Syria-Palestine = the Land of Israel, which means that you are talking about the Land of Israel, and not about a country or a territory that was never existed. The name "Palestine" was only a nickname for the Land of Israel, and it did not replaced it or was a different territory. BTW- I know who were the Philistines, dont you worry. Phoenicia was stretched through what is now Syria, Lebannon and northern Israel. Therefore, Gaza and Gath was not Phoenicia, and later on Lebanon, as it states: Source: http://www.ancient.eu/phoenicia/ Gaza and Gath was never part of Phoenicia, but it was the area where the Philistines lived in ancient times.
But I do. http://www.123rf.com/photo_18907806...tine-50-mils-coin-minted-in-1933-when-th.html http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/alltimeset.aspx?s=105595 For those who don't read Hebrew: http://www.israellycool.com/2016/05/20/know-your-history-those-palestine-mandate-coins-1927-1948/
Look at the overlap.. The history of that region is far more fluid than just Bible history. Herodotus called it Syria-Palestine circa 500 BC. The Israelite nation was just a tiny city state within Syria .. in bandit territory along the trade routes. For most of its history Israel was a vassal state paying tribute to Egypt and others. Madain Saleh, Petra were Nabatean and later Arab.. Sargon 2 settle 4 Arab tribes in Samaria circa 700 BC. The area was never dominated by Jewish people.
I never talked about the bible, and never even mentioned in any of my posts here. Please stay on track of this convertation. Right, Herodotus called it that way because of the existance of the Philistines in ancient times. It was only a nickname for the Land of Israel. City-State? are you talking about Yehud Medinata? Because Yehud Medinata was not withing Syria, but was withing the Land of Israel and included Jericho, BeitLehem, Jerusalem, Lod, Beit El, Mitzpe, Gezer, Rama, Ono, Haztur, Anatot etc. As you can see in the map: Yahud Medinata is in pink. What Saudi Arabia (Madain Saleh) and Jordan (Petra) to our discussion about the Land of Israel? Sorry, but in Saudi Arabia were of course Arabs, since they spreaded all over the wrold from Saudi Arabia. The once you are talking about regarding Sargon is the Samaritens, which are (they are still exist today) a group of people that only fulfill the commandments as it were laid down in the first fifth books in the Bible. They have zero connection to the Arabs, that at that time, were in Saudi Arabia, until the Arab conquest in the 7th centruy, which then they succeeded to conquer until Spain.
Excellent topic Margot2. I believe that a possible connection between the Messianic Jewish residents of the Roman Province of Judaea at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt with the possible ancestors of the bulk of the Palestinians helps to explain why the ancestors of the Palestinians would be significantly more willing to convert to Islam.......than members of the Rabbinic Jewish community tended to be. http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...bered-400-000-did-majority-convert-islam.html First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam? I guess it was about two years ago that I ran into evidence that the Palestinian people are largely the descendants of the second century Messianic Jewish community....... who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba revolt against Rome..... and thus were allowed to stay in the Roman province of Judaea after the revolt was crushed. I have noticed that this information has altered the way that I view the Israeli - Palestinian conflict ..... has affected the way that I pray about this situation...… and has been a subject that I have gone over and over again in my mind.
On the other hand..... the relationship between Palestinian Muslims and Christians have gone down hill terribly over these past few centuries..... https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7832/palestinians-christian-history Palestinians: Erasing Christian History
The Samaritans came later. His successor, Sargon II, states that 27,290 people (variant 27,280) were exiled from the city of Samaria. In place of the Israelite deportees, Sargon settled residents of other defeated nations in the Assyrian province of Samaria. In this connection the Bible mentions exiles from Babylon, Cuthah, Avva, Hamath, and Sepharvaim (II Kings 17:24), while an inscription of Sargon II specifies members of four Arab tribes who were settled in "Omriland" (Bīt Ḫumri) in 716/5 B.C.E. Finally, according to Ezra 4:1–2, forbears of the later Samaritans were brought into the province of Samaria by Esarhaddon, and, according to Ezra 4:9–10, "the great glorious Asenappar" – probably to be identified with Ashurbanipal – settled people from *Erech, *Babylon, *Shushan, and other localities in the city of Samaria and elsewhere in Syria-Palestine. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0006_0_06182.html Zipporah, the wife of Moses was an Arab from Median,
The Samaritans were the consequence of that. The Samaritans were those who lived in samaria, and from there they got their name. As I already told you: once again you are talking about regarding Sargon is the Samaritens, which are (they are still exist today) a group of people that only fulfill the commandments as it were laid down in the first fifth books in the Bible. They have zero connection to the Arabs, that at that time, were in Saudi Arabia, until the Arab conquest in the 7th centruy, which then they succeeded to conquer until Spain. There is a possibility that Esarhaddon brought people that eventually become also Samaritans. The people that lived in Median, which among that was Zipporah were nomads. The nickname of "Arabs" were for the groups of nomads, and not necceserily means Arabs as we know today, because the Arabs of today came, all of them, from Saudi Arabia, which there also where Muhammad lived, according to the Islamic holy books.
