The problem of religion

The Churches in general do not seem to even recognize the actual social culture, nor the immense changes which it has suffered during the last 70 years.
The Pope, in particular, appears blind to the rise in Gay power inside western societies, and he says nothing about the Feminism which was the whore upon the seven headed beast, as she has stood up again in America now.

His interest in Global Warming and poverty seems so nice, but neither of these is of any importance to Christ.
Jesus said the poor will always be with you.
He said wise men can tell the weather, but they are blind "to the signs of the times."

Matthew 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

 

So Jesus did not mention feminism, homosexuality or global warming. The closest you can get to any of the above is 'foul weather'? You have proven how irrelevant Jesus can be to discern a Christian view of modern social issues of any stripe.

 

In my opinion religion will change, just as it has changed through out the ages, and will become something that we would not recognise as Christianity .. after all Christianity is really little more than the re-hashing of earlier religions and myths.

 

The weather is concerned with Global Warming.
Remember that the adulteress, whom he protected from the crowd, was told not to sin sexually any more.
But the biggest thing he said was not to hurt the children, which is what a sexual promiscuous society does:

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

 

Christianity has eliminated mythological Gods who are all forgotten now.
The whole world worshiped myths when Moses came, 3350 years ago.
That is no longer done and a great step forward has been taken to change the whole world in this way.

What we will see soon is that Christ will be remembered for the message he delivered.
Truth will be seen as the mediator to understand and recognize Reality as master and the only God men need acknowledge.
Revelation seem historically to be right on track, and the way to change seems pretty clear to me.

 

Wrong as usual.

A message that was already in existence before Christ ever came on the scene.

 

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Its history isn't it.
All the world worshiped mythological Gods based upon the stars and the sun and the moon:

Deuteronomy 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

That ended with Universal Christianity, didn't it.

 

Being concerned about religion isn't the point. Being concerned with our cultural heritage is.

I understand that some Americans don't care for things older than a couple centuries (as it seems) but it doesn't mean we ought to ignore and let everything deteriorate which is quite older than that. The bigger part of those archives are books. Millions and millions of books, handwritten and therefore unique. My oldest book was printed in the year 1743, which by monastery standards is a "new print". They have books which are over a thousand years old. I don't understand why you'd approve of those getting destroyed if such a thing could be prevented.

The same is true for those cathedrals. They might not mean much to some people, but they are and have been the center of attention our culture for over 1000 years - at least in Europe.

 

"As a result of this, there is obviously a tremendous lack of money for Christian institutions, which keeps naturally falling."

that is why Bush created faith based initiatives...

http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/history_of_the_separation_of_chu.htm

"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
- Benjamin Franklin

 

So Jesus said nothing about feminism, homosexuality or global warming except by twisting texts about prostitution, hurting kids and some bad weather to turn them consistent with your agenda.

 

Tell that to Pagans, or other worshippers of other religions that have numerous gods, such as Wicca ( A God & A Goddess on equal terms) or Hinduism.

BTW Christianity is not universal

 

The link doesn't work for me.

Faith based initiatives might not be a long term solution if the trend continues and more people become agnostic or atheist. Do you think it is a real solution if the countries confiscate church property to properly protect the heritage? Do you feel that the church has to and should remain independent from the state when it comes to maintaining buildings and/or archives?

 

Are the books available to visitors?

 

Then you agree that I was right, that Christianity fulfilled its prophesied aim with Universal Roman World Christianity??

Zech. 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened, (the New Testament i.e.; the holy comforter), to the house of David,(i.e.; Christianity), and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem,(those who say they are Jews but are not: [Rev 3:9]), for sin and for uncleanness.

Zech. 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, (380 AD, when Emperor Theodosius I enacted a law establishing Catholic Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire and ordering others to be called heretics), saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and (Paganism) shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets, (especially of Astrology), and the unclean spirit(of Libidinal sexual excesses) to pass out of the land.

 

He did in Revelation when he pointed out the great whore of Babylon.

But what he also said was the Truth was what would set us free of all the evils including child abuse from a society which promoted sexual promiscuity.

 

You have already pointed out the prostitution reference and the child abuse reference. The question dealt with mentions of homosexuality, feminism and global warming and you got nothing on those topic

 

Usually, yes. The good padres are quite annoyed with visitors bothering them because of a few books and spending endless time in the overfilled libraries. They would even allow to make pictures, so you read back home, which is quite amusing. Two colleagues and myself spend a good day taking pictures. A friend of mine is writing his PhD dissertation on a priest who lived in the 18th century and wrote (if you stack the papers) an astonishing 5 meters (or 16.4 feet) of materials about his daily life and what he experienced in his travels. If you're curious how that looks:



I chose a completely random page of the good father.

 

Prostitution was mentioned but I referred to the adulteress.
And I do not believe Jesus was against homosexuality either.
He was against fatherless kids.

When permitted, Homosexuals and feminists promote sexual promiscuity which ends with fatherless kids who suffer great child abuse and grow to become the violent criminal element.

That is what Jesus was against.

 

Do they have the books of Rene Descartes which they bought up but never allowed to be distributed?

 

And I am separating what you assert and believe from what Jesus said or asserted according to the vague description we are left with. Did he refer to 'fatherless kids directly? I know what you think.

 

I wouldn't know. The index of this one library was accessed only by the padre. We didn't get to look around all that much because we had only one day to make pictures, and the focus for the visit happened to be the priest's papers I mentioned from the 18th century. But I did see a papal bull from the 10th or 11th century. But that is just one monastery in Austria. This one has I think roughly 500,000 books in its possession. It is not the only one. I think it wouldn't be too hard to find René Descartes' work somewhere in a monastery or church library.

The university in my hometown has "Renati Des-Cartes Opera Philosophica" in Latin from the year 1650. It shouldn't be too hard to get your hands on other Descartes' books from the 17th century if you really need the original form. Probably very difficult to come by in America I presume. But I might not be the right person to ask in that regard. I'm a historian, so I get way more access than the average folks.

 

looks like server is down, as no longer working for me either

here is another link

http://www.uuofscv.org/about-uu/famous-uus/87-benjamin-franklin-on-religion

""When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."
— Benjamin Franklin"

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I'm sorry I don't read your self-concocted horse crap that adheres to your own ideology.

Paganism, Wicca and other religions still flourish in the US, just as they do in the UK, just as they did in the Roman Empire .. your denial of that not with standing.

 

You need to read about life before the Renaissance, when even in Art the naked body disappeared in a society.

"there was a trait that separated Christians from the pagan culture: their sexual ethic.
While it was not unusual for Roman citizens to have multiple sexual partners, homosexual encounters, and engagement with temple prostitutes, Christians stood out precisely because of their refusal to engage in these practices.

For instance, Tertullian goes to great lengths to defend the legitimacy of Christianity by pointing out how Christians are generous and share their resources with all those in need. But, then he says, “One in mind and soul, we do not hesitate to share our earthly goods with one another. All things are common among us but our wives” (Apol. 39). Why does he say this? Because, in the Greco-Roman world, it was not unusual for people to share their spouses with each other."

http://michaeljkruger.com/one-trait...hristians-apart-from-the-surrounding-culture/

When Christianity became the only legal religion in the Roman World (380 AD), sexual promiscuity disappeared universally.

 

So you're saying the books are censored to the public, then?