The truth about 'human shields'. MOD ALERT

Jonsa and others not only deny that the pariah state undertakes such repulsive acts against children but also refuse to acknowledge that the said acts, as outlined in Section E above, constitute torture.

 

"Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations". http://www.eoinbutler.com/home/admit-nothing-deny-everything-make-counter-accusations/

 

This often of course involves IOF apologists and Israeli state propagandists throwing out 'trigger' epithets such global Jihad, Hamas, Hezzbollah, Al Qaeda et al. in their attempts to justify the unjustifiable. In this specific case though, 14 and 15 year old children are not really children you see, but young adults deserving of all of the inhumane treatment enacted by the rogue and pariah state.

 

Like I said about that report, but it seems the definition of evidence is as lost on the UN as it seems its lost on you.

IS THERE ANY SUBSTANTIATING EVIDENCE TO MATCH THE ACCUSATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND TORTURE OF TEENAGE PRISONERS?

I have yet to see anything that consists of more than accusations. I have not seen anyone address the legitimate question of does the accused mean he was sexually abused because of routine prisoner in-processing (strip search). Are the accusations of solitary confinement a response to NOT wanting to put pretty little teenagers in the general prison population.

I have no doubt at all that there is abuse in every single prison system on the planet. But it seems that the palestinians and their supporters are fully prepared to waive any evidentiary requirement in the face of some really juicy accusations.

So, what would convince me would be a report with investigative follow up of allegations. Medical reports indicative of beatings or rapes. Testimony under oath in a court of law by victims and accused perpetrators. Names of perpatrators, rank, where they work, list of other complaints against said individuals.

You know stuff that actually makes it into court as evidence. Getting to the bottom of all allegations thru legal process.
Failing that, then I find it incredibly odd that all these kids who have had such horrific internments did not immediately seek medical or evidentiary assistence. That there were no witnesses of conscience, nor fellow prisoner witnesses.

It never fails. The merest accusation regardless of the truth is enough to condemn the evil jews/israeli/zionists. It appears as tho any accusation is considered true until proven untrue.


Accusations like this always remind me of the classic from jeningrad:

[video=youtube;xRz5WnHemkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRz5WnHemkw[/video]

Or the kid who was shot dead with is dad, but apparently is still alive.

Or that Hamas fighters don't fight with kids surrounding them.

 

Anybody who was committed to exposing and ending alleged sexual abuse and torture in Israel's dungeons would be assisting in publicising the accusations. You seem more interested in having the accusations go away.

Then again, you continually post evidence of an apparent blindness to the realities of events;

 

Do you need a dictionary to define Substantiating? You have yet to provide any proof whatsoever.

 

You seem more interested in having the accusations go away too.

 

I notice that you also do not post links to any of the "thousands" of enquiries and UN reports that prove such actions. I am apparently blind because I don't automatically accept an unsubstantiated and frankly poorly put together UN report that for some reason they keep publishing periodically.

Provide us all with the evidence. Seems to me that you more interested in repeated unsubstantiated accusations than actually getting at the truth.

If it is reality, then how come despite repeated requests and even describing the kind of evidence I would look for when assessing such accusations, that nobody has stepped forward with the supposed damning evidence? Why is that, moon? why did you ignore the opportunity to actually provide us with evidence?

Blindness to reality?
I like to think of it as a more acute nose for bullcrap propaganda parroted by anti-zionists in true believer fashion regardless of evidence and reality.

Evidence. How about some.

 

Why don't you respond to snake's enquiry in terms that would expose your...er....position ?

 

As long as I've been reading your posts , you're always asking for "evidence " but it doesn't how much evidence is presented to you - I've never known you to acknowledge/accept it. .

IMO - its a f ing wastee's time anyone digging out evidence and proving it to you.



... byyeeeee -- . Back to ignore .

 

Btselem has a whole lot of material on their website addressing Israels historical use of civilians and children as human shields. It goes back at least as far in time as 2002.

 

I've never laid a finger on you.

 

The creation of Israel was legitimised by the UNO.

If UNO has no credibility, then Israel has no legitimation at all.

You cannot eat your cake and have it, too.

 

Sounds like fascist morals / logic to me.

 

But only if they're not neoZionist scummers, eh ?

Israeli settlers burn olive fields, stone Palestinian cars | Al Akhbar ...

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/16241

Settlers hurl stones at Palestinian vehicles in north | Maan News ...

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=602733

Settlers stone Palestinian car in West Bank#

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...one-palestinian-car-in-west-bank-1694067.html

Security forces fail to protect Palestinians from settler attacks in incidents documented by B’Tselem over last three months


http://www.btselem.org/settlers_violence/20130529_sf_fail_to_protect_palestinians_from_settlers

Settlers Stone Palestinians Commuting on West Bank Roads


http://www.wafa.ps/english/index.php?action=detail&id=22269


Settlers throw stones at Palestinians as IDF soldiers stand by in the West Bank village of Asira al Qibliya. April 30, 2013



http://972mag.com/nstt_feeditem/pic...stinians-as-idf-soldiers-look-on/stonessmall/

Palestine: Israeli settlers attack residents, hurl stones at cars in E Jerusalem

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/pa...residents-hurl-stones-at-cars-in-e-jerusalem/

Settlers stone Palestinian school kids in Hebron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRz9lNhpdoI

Jewish settlers 'kill Palestinian girl'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-130282/Jewish-settlers-kill-Palestinian-girl.html


There are thousands of reported incidents. Just not in YOUR medfia.

 

Btselem is a lefty turncoat organization together with Shalom Achav, in Jewish history we had quite a few.
To mention these two would be tantamount to inserting two full grown foxes in the national chicken coop.

 

Of course... it is well known that a German Fascist has a tattooed swastika under his arm.

 

If you don't like Zionist crimes being exposed there's a simple solution. Can you guess what it is? I'll help you; don't commit them!

 

Classy post, Bendor. I see you haven't let your standards drop. Next you'll be telling us that your precious Zionists never ever committed a crime against anyone, and that B'tselem are part of a gigantic anti-Semitic conspiracy...

 

Not only Germans, it seems that ALL Goyim (speak 99% of world's population) is not human according to Jewish racists.

As the prominent Jewish Rabbi Ovadia Yosef officially declared, only Jews are humans, non-Jews were created to serve their masters - the superior Jews.

This Rabbi was not ostracised by Israeli politicians, Peres and Nethanyahu still cringe to this Rabbi, you can see that in many, many pictures.

And after watching the Hollywood film "The unglorious Basterds" more non-Jews came to the conclusion, that basically ALL non-Jews are Germans or Palestinians now.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPykxc82HU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

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Apart from some rabid ultra-zionists, I don't know of any pro-zionist that does not acknowledge the excesses and crimes of Israelis. After all, they are human and last time I looked there isn't a single nation or ethnicity that does not commit crimes on a regular basis. One can debate that there are higher incidences of this crime amongst that population, but nobody with above room temperature IQ would take the position of 100% innocence. That goes for the Israelis as well as the palestinians, the germans, the american, the patagonians for that matter.

I requested evidence of child abuse particularly sexual abuse and torture of arrested teenagers. So far, the responses have been totally devoid of such evidence, but heavy on deflection.

Unlike HBendor, I think B'tselem is a decent outfit with good intentions and some extremely valid positions, notwithstanding their pacifist agitation that is of the same type as American Republicans - lots of condemnation, and very little alternative solutions offered.

Again, is there anyone out there who can show me any substantiating evidence to support the accusations of sexual abuse and torture of palestinian teenagers that have been arrested. ANYONE?

 

Well, all criminals in almost any civilized country are punished for their crimes. Israel claims to be a civilized country.

Zionist criminals get away with their crimes, and they are pushing for laws that will prohibit any freedom of speech worldwide, prohibiting any criticism of the crimes of the "Jewish state".

It that not Chutzpah?
They are not happy with the fact that they always got away with their crimes, because of the influence of the Israel Lobby, they now want to ban any criticism of their crimes, like the Apartheid Regime in Palestine, torture of children, genocide, ethnic cleansing and other activities that are identified by the experts as crimes!



They have a lot of influence and they may be able to impose on the entire globe their Bolshevik-Style censorship.
After that you will get a prison sentence or will be fined when you say that Zionists commit crimes, because anti-Zionism and pointing out the crimes of Israel will be "Anti-Semitism".

Well, independent institution and independent legal experts, charged by the UN, accused Israel of these crimes, but Israel [surprise, surprise!], denied that and accused the experts of [surprise, surprise!] "Anti-Semitism".

 

Yes, as simple as that.

But to understand that you have to be mentally healthy.
If somebody is a paranoid narcissist, then he will never admit that he does some wrong, the wrong-doers are always the "others".

Is this an opinion of a blind fool and an extremist, or do most Jews share this opinion?

Well, I do not know, but it is obvious that the Jews (1%) force their version of history on the rest of humanity (99%).

If you do not agree with their version of history, then you are just an "Anti-Semite" and in many countries you will be imprisoned.

Can 99% of world population be wrong, and only the 1% of "chosen" be right, and not only once, but always, during more than 2000 years of history?

Can all prominent western intellectuals of the former centuries, who pointed out the deficiencies of Jews and Judaism, be just "bad guys", speak "Anti-Semites", and Jews were ALWAYS innocent victims?

Does that make any sense, if we look at the problem without emotion, just using our logic?

What is more important, to be assessed as "good guys" by 99% of world population, or just behave like a spoiled child, who just stamps his feet and whines, and tells that he is right and and all others are wrong and bad?

I think that Zionists apply the wrong tactic, they behave like spoiled children, and that is why they are disliked.

Despite the ant-German hate propaganda of people like HBendor, despite the power of the Zionist Lobby and the implementation of the "Holocaust Industry", the majority of humans on our planet like Germany and the Germans, but do not like Israel and the Zionists.

What is the reaction of Jews to this poll?

They still believe that they are hated without any reason, that they are right and that 99% of humans are just "irrational haters", who hate them without any reason.

Do they believe that when they call the rest of humanity "haters", if they impose their Bolshevik-Style censorship on the 99% of humanity, if they persecute people that do not love them, fining them and putting them behind bars, that after that they will be loved?

Is somebody, who calls the rest of humanity "haters", who is ready to persecute people for their opinion, not a hater himself?

Can a hater not project his hate on the majority of people that surround him?

Well, doctors say that this is possible: