There is no plan B. Blah blah blah Thunberg talks

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  1. EMH

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    One of their tactics is to monitor seismic activity. Once seismic activity is detected, off they go in search of "warming..."

    Search for

    Arctic undersea volcanoes


    Yeah them. How do we get 83F in the Arctic Ocean.....
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that is just for one car. People get it that a Cadillac is more expensive than a Chevrolet. And those not wanting to spend that much will drive the Chevrolet. Or car in that class of price.
    So few will buy a Cadillac we can't just depend on it to supply cars. I own a Cadillac. I drove the wheels off of the car. It served me very well. I could have got 2 new Chevrolets then. I opted for the higher luxury car for a few reasons.

    My grandsons first new car out of college was his Tesla. And he uses it a lot. I am not clear why a party wants his car once he drives the hell out of it. But it will have residual value. But it will never again be new.
     
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    ROFLMAO Yep they live to fear.
     
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    In 2021 you wish to argue that CO2 increases in the atmosphere are a nothing burger?
     
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    The satellites and balloons show no atmospheric warming despite rising co2. They did until 2005, when your heroes fudged both with uncorrellated "corrections."
     
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    My comments were about Tesla offending average car buyers because of their high pricing and elitism marketing. Other manufacturers will eventually focus on average car buyers at which time EV market share should increase significantly...
     
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    Trouble is, Tesla set the standard and has a high price. The rest will have to sell a cheaper worse car.
     
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    Tesla only set a standard for luxury EV's...plenty of others are going down a different path...
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well yes, paraphrased of what I had said to you.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well look at that graph showing extremely tiny amounts of change over a very long time span. And to think my comments about death Valley the hottest place on this planet go ignored.

    Death Valley established the record for hottest place on earth way back in 1913.
     
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    You should contemplate what is happening since around 1910 and 1975?
     
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    Is your life best lived in fear or trying not to act frightened?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is like treating a flea with the same respect as an Elephant. The changes are miniscule. They are not alarming.
     
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    This issue is about Earth.

    Pitching Death Valley as a proxy for Earth could not possibly be more ridiculous.
     
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    Luxury product offerings inspire markets.

    The idea that a snazzy luxury car would kill a market could not be more nonsensical.

    You need to read up on how free market capitalism and the marketplace work.
     
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    You are acting like I said something I never said.
     
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    I did not use it as a proxy any more than eviron-whack jobs use CA as a proxy for climate or they use the Arctic as a proxy.
     
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    I don't know what you are saying about CA.

    As for the Arctic (did you mean Antarctic??) what is being pointed out is an effect attributed to climate change. Obviously, these are far larger regions than is the tiny Death Valley. But, these regions don't have an untoward contribution to calculations of Earth's average temperature, and it is solidly and constantly reported that Earth's increasing temperature does not affect all regions equally.

    In other words, making extrapolations about Earth's temperature based on one region is not legitimate and is counter to how scientists measure Earth's temperature.
     
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    The fallacy is that the average is a correct measure.
    I only pointed out that the hottest place on this planet was hottest in 1913. Do you deny that?

    And no I said Arctic because I meant the Arctic.

    My main problem is not with climate change, it is with the terrorists creating fear.
     
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    I deny that Death Valley is a valid proxy for the average temperature of Earth.

    I've pointed out that issue many times now. Yet, you persist without ANY rational justification.

    Now, you want to ignore your failures with science and move on to politics.

    And, you've got nothing there, either.
     
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    I said it is not the average. I dismissed average.
    Yes, you persist in not adding to this topic. Try this.

    Greta Thunberg mocks Democrats. Can you tolerate her doing that?
     
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    I have no fear and am not frightened as if this matters? Fact is I'll be dead and gone before the **** hits the fan. But I do care about Earth since it's the ONLY place in the entire Universe that is currently hosting humans and animals. The changes humans force on Earth and others cannot go without impacts since everything on Earth is 'finite' and linked together with fragile balance that presents a habitable place for humans. Humans have messed with this ecosystem and it's just a matter of time before payback!
     
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    Critical and catastrophic consequences on Earth DO NOT require 'elephant' sized changes...those fleas are going to bite you in the ass!
     
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    Unfortunately, she's right about that.

    Being better far better than Republicans is NOT good enough, and she makes that clear.
     

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