Thieving Israeli soldiers not prosecuted

Mandate for Palestine doesn't say what percent of Palestine will eventually become the final borders of the Jewish homeland, only that Jordan will NOT be part of it.

Israel is welcome to annex the West Bank, but then they will have to guaruntee civil and religious rights to all non-Jews, which will be 40% of the population.

 

And since there were no exact boundries for that national homeland, then it can be indeed include Judea and Samaria, since this territory is part of "Palestine".

Of course!!
The Arabs if tht total of the Judea and Samaria will be annex by Israel, the Arabs will not be 40% of the population, since in Israel there are other minorities that live in Israel. These minorities are 6.25% out of the total population, hence, if Israel will totaly annex Judea and Samaria then the Arabs will be approximately 34% out of the total population. Even less then 34%, if we will take into consideration the Crypto-Jews that live today among the Arab population in the West Bank.

 

crypto-Jews in the West Bank??????????

from which bull(*)(*)(*)(*) comic book did you get this from?????????

lolol!!!!

 

From reality, no comic books.

 

lolol!!!!!!

dishonest comic books.

there is no research whatsoever confirming large numbers of "crypto-Jews" in the West Bank.

there is more evidence that Santa Claus is real.

 

It is from reality:
[video=youtube;StlMl077Ei8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMl077Ei8[/video]

 

stupid Youtube videos isn't research or evidence.

but it is very funny!!!!

now, where is your EVIDENCE that there are lots of crypto-Jews in the West Bank?

you have none!!!!

 

It shows the actual places where there were villages that Jews lived and that today they are Arabs. There are live testimonies in that videos of such Arabs- Crypto-Jews. You could see in the video that on the house's doors there are Magen David that in some places later on the Tanzim vendelized it. and converted it to be like the sympol of Islam.

In this video you can see even a reaserch that was made about it:
[video=youtube;t3q6OKG4zAE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3q6OKG4zAE[/video]

In the inernational study led by Prof. Oppenhaim was found that the Arab are geneticaly close to the Ashkenazi Jews. In the study they found that alot of Arabs are carrying the gene of the Jewish preists.

 

No one denies that Arabs and Jews share similar genetics(as mentioned before dna studies show part to majority of Palestinians descended from population residing in Palestine at time of conquest that were mostly Christian and some Jewish that converted to Islam afterward). However your claim according to an anonymous person is that many of the Palestinians are still Jews which is not true and is not the same thing as saying Arabs and Jews sharing similar genetics. According to your anonymous person the Turks forced conversation of Palestinians from majority Jews to Muslims in the early 1900's late 1800's(note this is same time period as first aliyah and second aliyah and it wouldn't make sense for Jews fleeing persecution in Russia go to Ottoman empire to face similar level of persecution and forced conversations). Again demographic and history experts says that this anonymous person is wrong with Italian born Israeli expert demographer Sergio DellaPergola placing time of Palestine reach Muslim majority by end of 1100's around 800 years when before according to this anonymous person Palestine lost its Jewish majority. According to history experts Itamar Rabinovich(professor emeritus of Middle Eastern History at Tel Aviv University, distinguished global professor at New York University and a distinguished fellow at the Brookings Institution) and Jehuda Reinharz(professor of Modern Jewish History and Director of the Tauber Institute for the Study of European Jewry) in 1517 the year of the Ottoman conquest of Palestine from the Byzantines and around 400 years before according to this anonymous person the Turks forcibly converting Palestine's population to lose its Jewish majority; 1.7% of the population in 1517 was Jews. Again you don't use basic logic.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/israel_palestine_pop.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine#cite_note-28
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_DellaPergola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Rabinovich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehuda_Reinharz

 

"The body to enforce the document of the Mandate is still the UN. The document of the Mandate is in their hands from when the Brits gave it back to the UN until this day.
UNSCOP didnt cencel the document of the Mandate, because nowehere in it's document they talk about the document of the Mandate. They only talk about that they cenceling some commission of the UN. "
The Brits relieved themself of the document of the Mandate not in May 1948, but before that in the summer of 1947. What happened in May 1948 was that the Brits moved out from this territory and thus concluded the British Mandate (not the document of the Mandate). "
The document of the mandate is dead since the mandate ended. A document for something that is dead can't be alive. If as article 80 as you claimed protected documents forever it would have stated it in article 80. It doesn't, article 80 says "except as may be agreed upon in individual trusteeship agreements(lists article 77 which includes mandate agreements) and until such agreements have been concluded" . That is indirectly mentioning mandate document as it's a trustee agreement however it's not specifically mentioning it nor is it using what is written in mandate document as it doesn't quote mandate document and again if mandate documents are protected forever(by your logic other mandates like Syria and Iraq are still active since their mandate documents are indirectly mentioned in article 80) by article 80 it would actually say it Again please use basic logic.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter12.shtml

The borders of the mandate over Palestine is defined in the mandate document when it says "entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them". Note that means area of administration(this is different than area of Jewish home which mandate documents states Jewish home will be created in Palestine which was proclaimed with declaration of Israel's independence the day the mandate ended fulling goal and purpose of mandate) of the territory of Palestine defined by the mandatory which was United Kingdom which the mandate documents by stating
"Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have selected His Britannic Majesty as the Mandatory for Palestine"
This area of administration was defined in 1922.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp

The mandatory or administration of mandate was never transferred to the UN. They referred the problem of how to fulfill mandate due to the contradictory claims of Jews and Arabs to the UN.
The UN itself says this on the UN document "The Origins and Evolution of the Palestinian Problem". Except to it is below
"The United Nations took up the question of Palestine in February 1947, on the request of Great Britain, the Mandatory Power which had governed Palestine since 1917, first as an occupying Power and then under a mandate from the League of Nations in 1922. By this time all countries in the Middle East formerly under mandates were independent. The only exception was Palestine, a sui generis where the transition to independence had been impeded by violence arising out of the self-contradictory terms of the Mandate. Where in principle it should have provided a transition to independence, the Mandate's commitment to establishing a Jewish national home in Palestine had created a situation where conflict between Arabs and Jews in the area about the character of the future Palestinian State complicated the process. British attempts to resolve the issue by the partition of Palestine into two independent States or by relinquishing the mandate with the consequent emergence of an independent unified Palestine had failed in the face of the opposition of the Palestinian Arabs to the former plan and of the Zionist movement to the latter. Faced with a situation over which it was losing control, the British Government turned the problem over to the United Nations on the ground that the conflicting obligations assumed under the Mandate were irreconcilable."
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/9...OpenDocument#In favour: Australia, Belgium, B

This is also noted in chapter 5 of the British announcement of the termination of the mandate.

V. The Problem Referred to the United Nations
"After the failure of these discussions, His Majesty's Government decided that the only course now open to them was to submit the problem to the judgment of the United Nations, asking that body to recommend a solution."

The UN did not end the mandate. The British did again in their announcement of the termination of the mandate it noted
"In these circumstances His Majesty's Government decided to bring to an end their Mandate and to prepare for the earliest possible withdrawal from Palestine of all British forces. They accordingly announced on 11th December, 1947, that the Mandate would end on 15th May,1948, from which date the sole task of the British forces in Palestine would be to complete their withdrawal by 1st August, 1948. His Majesty's Government's decision to end the Mandate was welcomed by Arabs and Jews alike, as well as by the United Nations."

Again here is from UN statement from May 14, 1948.
"HAVING ADOPTED a resolution providing for the appointment of a United Nations Mediator in Palestine, which relieves the United Nations Palestine Commission from the further exercise of its responsibilities,"
This means the UN Palestine Commission is dissolved as there was no more point to continue commission as mandate was over, state of Israel was proclaimed with the question of what to do with Palestine resolved and a mediator to be appointed to broker truce to end clashes occurring when this was written.
http://ismi.emory.edu/home/resource...PALESTINE-HMG termination of Mandate 1948.pdf
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/C5E97ED405EA5D2D802564990059FE0A

The British the mandatory power and the one responsible for achieving goal of mandate even themselves noted that the goal of a national Jewish home in Palestine was achieved saying
"in spite of revolts and terrorism, a national home(referring to institutions like Jewish agency which represented Jews in Palestine and was led by David Ben Gurion who subsequently became prime minister) had been established and a Jewish community of over 600,000 persons had been built up, the Arab population had doubled and social and economic standards had advanced to the advantage of all..."
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/9...OpenDocument#In favour: Australia, Belgium, B

 

as per Article 80 of the UN Charter, the Mandate for Palestine was concluded by UNSCOP on May 15, 1948.

that means the Mandate is over, kaput, done, adios.

deal with it.

 

-Jews who converted to Islam 1,200 years ago are not Crypto-Jews. They are Muslims. Unless they are secretly practising Judaism at home, they are Muslims.

-There is no such thing as the Kohane gene. This gene is common among many peoples of the Middle East, including Palestinians, Jordanians, Kurds, Yemenites, Assyrians.

What it does prove, is that Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have Middle Eastern ancestry. But it doesn't prove ancestry from Aaron.

It if proved ancestry from Aaron, ONLY Jews would possess this haplotype, and this is simply not the case.

 

Stuntman keeps saying annexation of West Bank would mean 34% of population when that is not the accurate number. Out of Israel's population of 8.3 million 20.7% are Israeli Arab, and 4.3% are others such as people who don't identify with any religion or nationality. 2.7 million Palestinians live in West Bank. That would mean if Israel annexed West Bank out of 11 million(since that would be the new population of Israel) 4.4181(2.7 million Palestinians in West Bank + 20.7% of Israel's 8.3 million who are Israeli Arabs) million Arabs(40.16%) 356,900(4.3% of Israel's 8.3 million population cited in census) other (3.2%), and 6.225 million Jewish(Israel's population from census that was counted as Jewish) (56.64%).
http://www.jta.org/2014/12/30/news-...s-population-at-8-3-million-at-close-of-i2014
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html

 

Meant https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html citation for West Bank population

It estimates a slightly higher population of Palestinians in West Bank than 2.7 million; 2,785,366 which slightly adjusts numbers from previous post making it so 40.6% of Israel's population would be Arabs if Israel annexed the West Bank.

 

Still waiting for word that a single Israeli soldier has been court marshaled for burglary. ... and waiting ... and waiting.

 

Why should this happen?
Israeli soldiers are police, prosecutor, judge and jury!

 

And is as it should be as when at war a military prosecutes it's own under military law not open to civilian eyes and justification.

 

Point is another one too ... anyone who use Military for Police duties failed, because soldiers are no policemen and never trained to be!

 

he also thinks up to 85% of Arabs in the West Bank, are secrety Jews.

its absurd and ridiculous.

 

Every person that their family convereted to some other religion, but still could have evidences of their connection to Judaism then they are Crypto-Jews.

In one hand you say "there is not such thing", but in the other hand you say "there is".
The Kohene gene is existing, and such gene is existing only in Jews- which means any non-Jews that live today and carrying such gene, it means that they are connected to Judaism, and that they family converted to Christianity/Islam, which makes them Crypto-Jews.

They didnt say that because there is a genetic connection between Ashkenazi Jews and the Arabs in the West Bank, then itis prove ancestry from Aaron. The fact about the ancestry from Aaron is another thing that they found.

 

you have no research that millions of Arabs in the West Bank are secretly practising Judaism. its all a fraud.

you are 100% wrong, and you never actually read about this. The so-called Kohain gene shows a link between Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews and the Middle East, but this gene is held by tens of millions of folks in the Middle East who are NOT descended from converted Jews. Its simply a Middle Eastern gene, not a gene that shows descent from Aaron.

as you can see in the map, the Aaron haplotype is shared by many folks in the ME who are not Jews and have no connection to Jews.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M267#Levant_and_Semitic_populations

 

It is all according to an international genetic research that was conducted in Israel showed that to many Arabs in the ME have Kohene Gene, which made them a descendents of Jews- because only Jews have such gene.

In Israel you have 1.6 million Arabs, while if you are including the Druze then it jumps to around 1.7 to 1.8 million (this means the Druze are around 100-200 thousand) and another 360 thousand which they are Christians and others and not Arabs. This means that you have in Israel about 500 thousand which are not Arabs. those 500 thousand are 6.25% out of the 8 million people live in Israel today, so it will not be 40% but more along the lines of 34%.

 

Do you now who was a Kohene? A Kohene is a Jewish preist in ancient times. Hence, the "Kohene Gene" is refer to a connection to Judaism.

 

The document of the Mandate hsant over not cencelled. The British Mandate indeed over, but not the document (there is a difference). And since the document of the Mandate didnt over in 1948, then it hasnt been concluded, and thus Article 80 of the UN Charter is still refer to it according to Article 77 that article 80 refers to.

And since the Brits "fixed them" when they gave part of "Palestine" to the Hashemite family. Which means that whatever was left from "Palestine" was for the Jewish national homeland, since the Brits didnt "fix" that territory and whenever they tried to, they didnt succeded- like the UN. Hence, what ever was left from "Palestine" is for the Jewish national homeland.

So if no one "fixed the borders of Palestine" as it was defined in the Mandate, then what ever was left after the Brits gave Jordan to the Arabs, is for the Jewish national home.
(people tried to fixed the borders of what left from "Palestine", but didnt succeed).

The responsibility over the document of the Mandate was indeed transfered to the UN, when the Brits transfered it in the summer of 1947.

So now the responsibility over the document of the Mandate did trasfer to the UN? earlier you wrote that it didnt happen.

Right, the British Mandate did terminated the British Mandate, but didnt terminated the document of the Mandate, since the Brits themsevles in Article 5 ( as you showed here) transfered the responsibility over the document of the Mandate to the UN, which makes your claims that "the Brits terminated the document of the Mandate" not valid, since the document of the Mandate wasnt in their hands anymore.

The document of UNSCOP is not referring in any lane to the document of the Mandate, but only refers to a commission of the UN that it reliefs the rosponsibility of this commission. Not a single word about the document of the Mandate.
Moreover, the document you provided here, referred to a resolution 181 that was agreed upon in the UNGA. But since this resolution was never been implemented, then there was no reason to terminate the Mandate.
If resolution 181 did been implemented, then I would have agree with you that the document of the Mandate has over, but since it never happened, then the document of the Madnate is still valid.

And since the document of the Mandate didnt really referred to any exact boundries in "Palestine", then it cant be said that it was been fulfilled. But if you will say that they did defined exact boundries then:
And since the Brits "fixed them" when they gave part of "Palestine" to the Hashemite family. Which means that whatever was left from "Palestine" was for the Jewish national homeland, since the Brits didnt "fix" that territory and whenever they tried to, they didnt succeded- like the UN. Hence, what ever was left from "Palestine" is for the Jewish national homeland.

 

The United Nations concluded the Mandate on May 15, 1948, which was their right to do.

and as Article 80 of the UN Charter says, the rights of the Mandate are now over since the Mandate document was concluded.

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as you can see in the map, the term "Kohain gene" is a misnomer, as this gene is held by millions of people in the Middle East who are not Jews and never were Jews.