Time to look at Bible in a modern way--Bible mentions aliens all along

Daniel is one of my favorite books of the Bible. If there are parts of the Bible that have some inspiration from God that I would pick Daniel as being one of the most likely parts. Daniel was like an ancient Nostradamus.

Unfortunately for your argument what Daniel is referring to is the rebuilding of Israel after the Babylonians destroyed it, and their temple.

This happened when Persia kicked Babylonian butt and allowed Israel to rebuild the temple.

There is no prediction of 2500 years (from Nebuchadnezzar in 500 BC till now)
70 weeks is less than two years and this is the time to finish repentance for transgressions and "annoint the holy one".

Then from the time when the holy on is annointed to the time when the temple is built will be threescore and two weeks (62 weeks) + 7 weeks = 69 weeks.

This has nothing to do with Israel being given some land after WWII.

Pretty much. There have always been Isaelites in Israel.

Revelation is a strange prophecy and it does seem that some of these things could relate to the "American Empire".

They could also relate to other empires before or after the book was written. It could easily refer to the Roman Empire.

 

I think that today's governments will downplay this for the same reason that ancient governments downplayed it, although those had less lattitude because of the undoctored face-to-face physical encounters. I think the governments' logic is that they are afraid of what shock an announcement may create in the international trade patterns with them.

Unfortunately, the Book of Genesis is only like 2 professors' side notes to the field notes and analyses of a group of students. So there is nothing to resolve the contradictions between the 2 concurrent stories that the Book of Genesis presents about this. The Book assumes that the reader has the field notes and the analyses too, but these were all collected from various tribal leaders and trade ships at the single location of the library of ancient Alexandria. To destroy these materials, both a burning by muslim invaders and a never-since seen earthquake was arranged, and now historic Alexandria is under water inside the Mediterranean Sea. I think it may be interesting if I mention, that even for a recent convert from atheism to christianity, such as myself, I find that the Genesis stories simply reaffirm what I had already known before about the aliens, but not from media/books.

May I add, that various waves of aliens visited even before the start of humanity, most destructively in the pre-Cumbrian period. The biosphere has not yet recovered from that.

As for the alien technologies, they are more sensitive to mechanical structures, than anything human people would be ready to embrace and/or imagine. They consider for example the "sampled" nature of the displacement of mechanical information, such as it relates for example to spinning an object with a concave shape, like a disk with a slit, whilst keeping the concave portion (the slit) immobile.

Another (and criminal) process that can be observed is the induced differential discontinuity in the mechanics of living structures. Living organs are stored in isolation from each other, in a highly agressive state, indefinitely. This is unnatural and mostly deadly to live bystanders/observers, by absorption.

And thirdly, separation of captured objects/categories is done by deforming space instead of implementing barriers. People may percieve this as some force field or a sort of deadly scare; what it actually is is the partial decomposition of the (living) structure of the participant/observer and a subsequent integration of the result into the alien structure. There is no definite distinction between living and non-living objects/participants, but a smooth and static time-invariant structural transition.

Well these are some of the things that I found out (unwillingly). Maybe suitable for some discussions?

P.S.: Also, Earth seems to be a closed system now, but some lower-profile incomers may get an arrangement for some placement/assistance, although that may easily turn out to be a lot more than what they bargained for.

 

Those poor daughters must have had the roughest hell with those absolutely unscrupulous, stuck-up, violent, abusive, disrespectful, above-all-law, filthy, punkly, intimidating, criminal nephilims.

 

How about Romania? That is a new country, never existed until very recently, but was assembled in a haste, trippled in size very quickly, and proudly names itself with the name of ancient Rome, like a New Rome, with the same ambitions? It may be a better fit to the Book of Revelations than the USA, especially considering its tripple Greko-Roman-Jewish traditions, so heavily emphasized in the Book.

 

I am so glad for your excellent reply, I treasure it. I will have to look up all the things you said in able to respond. Plus, the dictionary too, English is not my native language, I may respond section to section in different time though. I may also ask you a lot of questions too. I am a learner. Hope it will spark another wave of discussion with other members too. This is the subject I really want to talk about.

And it is joyful to know that you become a Christian and to know that you are open minded.

 

I haven't thought about the economy factor in this. What do you mean by international trade patterns with them?

To me, I think the governments would downplay this is because they may afraid of a worldwide panic. But people today is different than few decades ago, we have been explored the alien concept, our advanced technologies lead us to a different level of thinking. If the governments decide to make an annoucement, I don't think it will be as bad as they think.


I also found an article about China/US may enter a contest to see who should make that annoucement first to gain world presitige. The news seems phony, but that news article come from a state controlled Chinese news paper. That mean China is silently and intentionally leaking the news about the alien existence and in contact of the governments or preparing the public about it.
Well, the announcement didn't happen eventually, for some unknown reason.
May be they still think it's not time.

Here is the news article if you want to check it out
http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/01/chinese-national-tv-reporting-impending.html

 

Thanks for your kind words.

By the way I am a learner too.

(Although I was not seeking this kind of knowledge about those types of extraterrestrials.)

I think you are right. I was thinking about economic factors, because a panic and a sell-off at a stock exchange that anticipates some crisis in shipments or cash flow, is as bad as a real panic on the streets.

State controlled media is similar to big corporation controlled mediain its misinformation.

 

I have to admit, I am ignorant about the writers of Genesis, the library of ancient Alexandria and the conflicts. To me, Genesis is part of the Bible, I study it as simply the words of God. Never give a doubt about it.

What had you already known? Do you mean you already know they are aliens who are in the Genesis stories?

 

What kind of alien knowledge you are seeking?

Now, I understand what you mean by you have already known before this alien....

You have been studying alien stuffs before you seriously study Genisis and become a Christian, am I right?

Please elaborate, you knowledge of those types of ETs.

Don't have to be long if it cost too much time. Just a little introduction will be fine.

I totally agree. Espectially now, we can't afford another world economic crisis.

I agree too, but not totally. Honestly, I don't fully buy that article either.

In China, people don't really believe all things said in the state controlled newspapers, but people read it to get or search signals from the government. There are always involved a lot of guess works too.

 

Well I must say that this part I am not sure about. I knew that it had been possible to run into or get caught by (rare) bloodthirsty "giants" even before ever knowing about the Bible, although I have never experienced it. I also know that this became impossible some time ago. I can't explain my knowledge with reading the Bible because I had known it before that.

My interest is about how to
1. recover all parts of all objects that the extraterrestrials have/had from Earth, whether they stole it, was given to them, or they conned people into giving to them.
2. And then cutting all connections, spacial and temporal, between all the objects and all aliens and alien structures,
3. followed by the reassembly of those objects on Earth to exactly the way the objects had been before the taking.
4. And then, to reinsert the objects into their usual "life" cycle on Earth like all similar objects do.

Unfortunately, my knowledge does not come from studying aliens or studying the Bible, or any kind of reading. I have these as personal experiences (if you can believe it), and then later when I started to study the Bible, the Bible confirmed a lot of my pre-existing knowledge.

One noteable point could be the insertion of something like a hand and/or a toy into the bodies of some certain aliens (at their "permission"), motivated by my own hard-headed stupidity. The experience does not seem to be biological, and what you can't see inside them feels like moving dry fiber/slug-like motions, that are capable of decomposing any object inserted, although they choose not to do it half the time. You may not get back what you put in. I can't explain this too well because there are no good reference points to compare this to things in regular life, and I was a toddler when I did this. (Strange that I remember it too.)

But what was later striking about reading the Book of Revelations was, that in the Revelations, christians are promised a new body that is advertised to be "better" than our currently available human bodies. I think I have an idea from my strange experience what that new body in the Book of Revelations may/will be like. By the way, by shape, it was 2 types, I recognized them when I accidentally saw drawings of them in a program whilst flicking channels on TV.

Other knowledge that I have is related to some "driving" of a vehicle there (which I failed with), my observations about their attitude to young children in an environment that they control, and that I can absolutely concur with people that I heard a lot later, that long distance travel is bound to be memory-less, it is not possible to have a recollection of HOW you percieve your journey process.

This is just what comes to mind at this time, there may be more stuff I can't think of at this moment. My reports may contradict things you can read about aliens, to be honest I don't read a lot, I prefer talking to people instead, although I haven't been persuing that either.

I wish we Americans were this sceptical too.

 

Okay.

Is it kinda like a psychic?

What objects did ETs steal from us?
I only heard about they give us their alien technology.

I don't really understand, you mean the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids?

I need more details.

Sounds like psychic stuffs. Please tell us more your personal experiences, I can't wait. Do you have dreams too? The dreams that tell future.

You encountered with aliens? Please tell.

A spiritual body or alien body?

Interesting.

Aliens are angels, they can change into spirit form or physical form or many other forms that we don't know about.

I don't think it will contradict what I read, may be just something I haven't learn yet.

Beware of them, there are good angels and fallen angels as well as there are bad aliens, aliens also have different kinds.


Sounds interesting



I wish we Americans were this sceptical too.[/QUOTE]

 

No. A psychic is a skill and an ability. I am none of those.

All kinds of objects, from the very small to the very large, equipment, toys(!), machinery, clothes, you name it. I don't care if I will now sound like a weirdo, but I state it here that all those objects are alive like we are alive.

As for alien technology, I think the aliens are not particularly interested in handing it to people, but they don't make a secret out of their technology either. As a maths student, I spent some time trying to get some understanding of it, with more or less success.

No, the pyramids may be alien-supervised/constructed structures, but the structures themselves are not alien. By alien structures I meant structures entirely alien by origin, including all sources and atomic/molecular arrangements, before the absorption of parts of objects from Earth.

To my understanding, all parts of all objects are fully defined by their mechanical structure, down to all ordered arrangements of each elementary particle in them. Plus, we get the traces of all of these ordered arrangements in space and time from negative infinity to positive infinity. This is where (in my humble observation) the life functions come from too.

So, when any structure gets decomposed and integrated into another one, such as something from Earth into an alien thing, a discontinuity is created for the detriment of the structure/object from Earth. The consequences are far reaching and very destructive for other objects on Earth. Just like alien structures can't be removed from their traces coupling them with other alien objects, Earth objects can't either, so these discontinuities are "intolerable".

I am not a psychic. These are only memories of what happened. I have no dreams about these.

As for evaluating future events, my understanding is that everything occurs outside the "realm" of time, i.e. coincidentally. But when we perceive the events, we use our electromagnetism-based senses, and that gives us the illusion of time, and the illusion that causality is unidirectional from past to future.

So, in the mechanical sense, the future can be told, see Nostradamus and others, but this future keeps going through change cycles that appear iterative until that future actually happens. So, the Bible is right again, and Paul does well in his Epistoles to warn against professional future teller people.

Well, I kinda detailed some of the most important parts of my encounters. They happened when I was very little. But now that I study maths and read some theoretical physics, I can make more sense of what I saw. What kind of information would you like to know?

A physical alien body, not spiritual or other.

Yes. I guess I was lucky, especially considering stories of other people.

Earth based structures/objects need God/Jesus more than anything, especially when in the company of aliens.

By the way, I think the Pope was right not to connect the aliens we may meet today with the ones in the Bible without careful listings of conditions.

 

Agree. if the alien hand out anything to human, they certainly would ask something in return.

Have you heard about Eisenhower had 3 meetings with different kind of aliens?
and they signed a secret agreement?

It could be.

Interesting theory.

Interesting explaination.

Absolutely. Jesus warn us we have more advanced and powerful enemies.

The Pope and his science terms are ready to welcome the aliens and even have the fantasy that they will baptize the aliens. They don't know who the aliens are.


The Pope will lead many people to fall in the future. We are about to enter the age of deception.

 

I heard of this and I think that this is related to one of the secret labs that we have in the USA for related bio-experimentation. The lab is built into a hill and many floors deep. Both people and aliens are in it. The location of it is published, but I forgot the name of the area. Do you know about the labs?

I think we need more warning, or we need to listen more.

I can say that to be in anything built by aliens is very disorientating, perplexing, and scary, even when they communicate with you in good terms, because they make rooms not by building walls, but by distorting space itself. So you never know how big your room/cell/theatre is and/or how far you can walk, until too late. Although being locked up between walls in a box like shape may be worse. I speculate that they do it in this space-distortion way because of the way they transport, all their constructions being transportable.

In addition to this, it is obvious that it is sufficient for them to use the lights of stars in space to do their "work", and the extra light in the "rooms" is put there only for people to be able to see minimally to function to the level they want it.

Absolutely right. If the aliens could be babtized, that would be good, but we already know from the Bible, that the devil knows everything in the Bible, so talking to it/them is useless. And indeed, we don't know who the aliens are, even if we could get a definite number of how many alien types exist. I know that some are friendly and some are not, but they too can change their minds pretty well.

Are you saying this because of the Book of Revelations?

 

You mean secret bunkers building all around the US? I heard one is under the Denver airport in Colorado. Not sure if that's the one you talked about.
Speaking about this, check out this guy--Phil Schneider. He was one of the engineer who built secret underground facilities for US government and later was brutally murdered after his disclosure.
He encountered the aliens in one of his project.
Very interesting. Here is one of the article. Try check out the youtube too and search more article about him. He gave out lectures, and talked about his experiences.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground28a.htm

Is this another theory?

Part of it. Actually Jesus, Paul, John, Mark..they all had warned us about the deception throughout NT.

The UFO phenomenon may be the largest deception that may even lead the elect to fall too in the future.

It is a rather new concept, it links the UFOs and aliens to antichrist to one world government. They will deceive the whole world, fly down with advance alien craft one day and claim they are real gods and they can help human to transfer to new enlighenment, they will deceive some of the elect too, some people even guess that the fake rapture could be a mass of alien abduction too.......

Here is the article if you are interested.
http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ufos.html

 

Wow, I didn't know that there were many bunkers like this. It is so good that you and your friends are interested in this and do research!

Well I am no Phil Schneider, I would never work in government projects, I would respectfully decline if such a thing was offered to me, my life is fully in the private sector. After all, I may not be an alien, but I think I am not a human either, so it wouldn't be fair if I worked for a government.

I have never seen beam weapons with the aliens I met, but I read about the beam weapons, and those reports said that the beam weapons caused malfunctions is various guided missles that the US Air Force is equipped with.

To be honest, I don't see how Schneider can substantiate his claims, but if I was to qualify them, then I would say, that for the allow growth, it is not the vacuum but the gravity compensated by the orbit that is neccessary, because that excercise is about how to minimize the number of crystal structure defects during the alloy formation.

I believe in the 1954 meeting that he describes, and I believe that people reverse engineered alien space craft. No wonder that the power of those space crafts is in their molecular structure and that they don't appear to have any other features, because when they transport above the speed of light, all electromagnetic forces, such as the ones that keep objects together, get "absorbed" into other types of forces and no structure is preserved. It has to be reconstructed upon arrival.

As for AIDS as a population control, it is really not fast enough for that.

As for earth quake generation, I must say, that if you know the structure of any solid state composit, such as the Earth's crust, then you can calculate what kind of energy-time profile you need to stimulate it with and at what locations, to make it resonate. Entirely possible, and I am sure that many punks do it in many governments.

No, those were my personal physical experiences.

There are "walls" there but they are not mechanical, they only FEEL like they are there, they distort light, but they don't have an exact place and you can walk through them like walking through a beam of light or smoke screen.

Then, on the other side it is a lot colder and darker, obviously not prepared for occupation. When you turn back though, you don't step back to your earlier room, you end up in another one.

I was a little kid and after walking through the wall, a very frightening alien saw me, I curled up in my fetal position in fear and the next thig I remember is that I was back in another room, alone. Then when I walked through the wall of that one too (I wasn't a smart kid), there was nobody on the other side, only cold and less light, and seemingly endless space, but when I turned back to go back to the lit room, I ended up in another one.

These are the physical facts as I experienced them.

The theory is only where I speculate that they build things this way for transportation. The less molecular structures they need to reconstruct every time they arrive at places, the less work there is to do, so it pays them to build their facilities and vehicles by deforming space rather than using solid state objects, as far as possible.

This supports the the theoretical physics papers that exist in various academic journals these days that all electromagnetic forces suffer a conversion back into other forces at the event horizon. And you must cross this back and forth when you transport above the speed of light.

Also, academic publications state, that you may never know where you end up when you cross either back or forth, so you don't know if you can get back where you started. However, the alien facility seemed to have control over this aspect, to some degree, not fully.

In line with this, since our memories and consciencious are electromagnetic, I am not surprised that I had no recollection when they took me from outside my room the 1st time and transported me into another room on purpose, if this involved a brief crossing of the event horizon. Then add that when I went through the wall the 2nd time and returned to another room instead of the original, they were not there to control that.

Yes. I sooo agree with this. The aliens should have never touched the women of people. There is nothing in the universe that is shaped as good as women and this includes women's hair. And I agree that any image that aims to change this is a horrible violation of human comfort. What do you think of the movie "Avatar"? There they changed women's hair and shape to rather conform to some alien image. A horrible case of acclimatization. That must stop, in my humble opinion. Also, what do you think about the head gear muslim women wear? That is to hide their hair. Is it possible that they started that tradition in fear of aliens 1000's of years ago?

Do you have a knowledge how I can search for drawings of aliens by witnesses? I am looking for 2 types of drawings that are like the aliens I met, I saw those drawings amongst many once on TV, accidentally, last year.

 

I have seen flying saucers. Then the cups flew across the room and pretty soon it was also other plates and glasses. I headed out of that kitchen in a hurry and did not return until after she had a chance to cool down!!!!!

 

What do you mean that you are not a human? Did you actually meet aliens? When? How was the experience? Were you abducted?

 

Well, I know this for no reason, that I used to function in a balanced environment. Then this environment disappeared in quick steps. I tried to distribute myself into other environments so that I don't disappear too, but I couldn't figure those and most of me disappeared. What was left of me, I quickly hopped from allocation to allocation, until to my great luck I got a human body that was built very well for me. But ... I got a lot more than what I bargained for ... .

This makes no sense, unless I think of myself as a software product in the process of deletion from a computer network. Computer programs are normally in a "balanced environment" of allocated network resources such as dynamic memory and disc space. When they are deleted, it is their handlers that get reassigned, then their space gets overwritten by other programs.

This makes me sound like a crazy, but I have no better explanation. This makes me a computer program instead of a human, only not from the Internet of Earth.

Yes, I met a few, in the situations that I described in my earlier posts here. This is why I was interested if eye witness drawings of aliens are available on the Internet. I recognized 2 types I met, when a few drawings were shown in a TV program.

I don't exactly recall everything in exact order because the meetings were so long ago and I was an unsuspecting toddler. But I must say that the aliens based a lot of their attitude to me on my unsuspecting behavior inside their facilities.

I can write a lot about what went on if you are interested but that would take a ton of time to type in.

 

spt5,

I finally realize that you are joking with me.

 

It sounds like a joke.

And I think we can laugh at it. But ... I wrote facts to you and they are real, even if they are funny. I didn't just make them up, but it's OK to call them a joke, I would laugh at them too. One interesting thing about meeting with aliens is that they all sound like a joke, so it is easier to make a comedy out of them than to explain the truth.

I know that you seriously care about alien interactions, and although I have been passive about them, I was glad now that you invited the important parts of my/a story for a few posts.

Cheers Lynx!
~spt5

 

You are welcome! It's been fun for me too!

Cheers Spt5!

lynx