Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

So counter intuitive, from where I sit. Here, migrants are the least likely to be fat and/or drinkers. They're 'white problems' in this country.

 

Home made patties are the bomb. Load 'em up with fresh onion, fresh garlic, black pepper, fresh herbs, and a dash of spice if you like it ... hold the salt (altogether). Delish!

 

I'm sure there are some fat white alcoholics in New Mexico's wealthy cities as well. Due to differences in healthcare, they probably have better health outcomes overall. Anyway, we started this conversation because New Mexico has not been hit hard with the virus, and that is odd considering all the chronic health issues there. Maybe there is something to the "internal alcohol" effect. [just kidding]

 

The numbers so far (25th April) since the beginning of this pandemic (taken from Stats latest list), are certainly strange:

Spain pop. 46m. : c19 deaths 23,000 = 1 death per 2,000 pop. (approx.)
Italy pop. 60m. : c19 deaths 26,000 = 1 death per 2,300
UK pop. 66m. : c19 deaths 20,000 = 1 death per 3300 ​

Sweden pop. 10m. : c10 deaths 2000 = 1 death per 5000.
US pop. 325m. : c19 deaths 53,000 = I death per 6000
Germany pop. 83m. : c19 deaths 5800 = 1 death per 14,300
Iran pop. 82m. : c19 deaths 5600 = 1 death per 14,600
Russia pop. 144m. : c19 deaths 681 = 1 death per 210,000
S.Korea pop. 52 m. : c19 deaths 242 = 1 death per 215,000
NZ pop. 5m. : c19 deaths 18 = 1 death per 277,000
China pop. 1.4B. : c19 deaths 4600 = 1 death per 304,000

Australia pop. 25m. : c19 deaths 81 = 1 death per 308,000​

Japan pop. 126m. : c19 deaths 345 = 1 death per 365,000
Indonesia pop. 268m. : c19 deaths 720 = 1 death per 372,000

Singapore pop. 5.6m : c19 deaths 12 = 1 death per 467,000​

India pop. 1.35B. : c19 deaths 780 = 1 death per 1,700,000

 

STOP MISREPRESENTING MY POSITION.

I said to many other people that we need to replace enough of folks' incomes, through their employer, to give them enough money to cover their bills and put food on the table. If you want to explain to people how this can be done, go ahead. It's counterintuitive to people who don't understand economics, so good luck explaining the mechanics.

If you think it's all so obvious, how come you didn't understand fully how it would work in this situation where we aren't looking at a demand deficit?

Support them all until we find their business model no longer works, keeping in mind effective treatments or a vaccine might make, say, ocean cruising as popular as ever. We can go along with limited production for as long as necessary.

Don't get too cute because the people who work will want more money than those sitting home learning a new language. They'll want at the very least a larger share of post-COVID-19 return to full production.

Stop doing public works when we're limiting production on purpose.

Printing money is not how you get foreign exchange.

 

Gin! Kept the Queen Mother going for a century

 

If he breaks the rules... and I think you described someone who isn't inclined to follow the rules.

 

Money is NOT scarce for sovereign governments. How obvious is that...if orthodoxy would stop blasting the MSM with the lie that it is, by relying on the fact that money IS scarce for private citizens who have to earn (or beg for, or steal) the stuff and so think it IS scarce. All lies.

As for 'demand' in this pandemic, the government should simply finance and manage the entire economy, until free markets can begin to function again when the pandemic has passed. (But the private-banking-financed market-based economy in the West is fast approaching its use-by date......let's see how China manages with it's state-managed public banking model).

OK

"Awww. it's not fair....." Geez.

We are limiting production to enforce physical distancing among large groups. Highly mechanised construction work need not be a problem.

Yes well....the BIS should be funding the transition to clean green anyway....regardless of the destruction of foreign trade in this pandemic.
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Anyway have a look at my numbers in post #6804 above. I'm trying to work out what they mean.

 

Good table, thanks for that. Sweden is a clear winner when it comes to smaller populations. Their refusal to lock down was a very bad decision.

Meantime, the table shows a much clearer picture of an east/west divide, as the massive jump in mortality between Iran and Russia indicates. No correlation to climate - given Russia, Japan, China, Korea etc have very cold Northern winters. Doesn't tell us anything significant about population density either, since some of these Eastern nations have incredibly dense cities.

When you add in the proximity factor (to the source) and the constant movement between China and all Eastern nations, the figures SHOULD show higher mortality rates in the East, than in the West. Yet they don't.

This deserves plenty of research into all possible factors. Different strains of the virus, different citizen behaviours, different diets, different overall health statistics, etc etc.

 

I'm having difficulty deciphering why this data is "certainly strange." Would you please elaborate?

 

There are 50,000 dead Americans while Canada with 1/9 of our population has 2,465 deaths. Someone in this country did something wrong.



Now, we have desperate unemployed folks and covidiots wanting to open up the economy too soon. The misery seems poised to continue.

 

Even better, substitute American bison for the beef.

 

Ah...yes, I didn't notice that, thanks.

[Australia and NZ being 'east', geographically speaking]

 

It's a very distinct difference. I really hope this is being closely looked at.

And yes, of course OZ and NZ are East .. unless they've move recently

 

I see the stats for Canada are
pop. 38m. : covid19 deaths 2465 = 1 death per 15,400.

Which means Canada is better than Germany and Iran on my list, but still firmly in the terrible 'western' group.

 

eg, why is Spain so much worse than S. Korea, with roughly the same per capita GDP?

Pop in S Korea is a bit larger (52m v. 46m in Spain), area I/5th that of Spain. Doesn't make sense.

 

Canada 37.8m with 2,465 deaths = 1 death per 15,335

Looks as though the top five countries have let it get away from them.

 

Ah, yea the "Eastern" vs "Western" Infection and Mortality Divide is extremely stark.

I imagine it is a subject that will be studied for decades to help explain the reasoning.

 

The Red Chinese did something very wrong. And the result of that cover up has hit the NY/NJ Metro area extremely hard.

 

Yes, people continue to peddle the falsehood that S. Korea locked down their economy. Also Taiwan and Singapore. Japan and Sweden continue to do much better than many countries which have locked down. There is no correlation between lockdown and success controlling the virus.

 

The problem with being flat is that what is declining in NY is increasing in the rest of the nation. If our new cases and death tolls remain constant as to where they are right now through the beginning of August that will be 150,000 deaths. And if it continues like that to the end of the year it will be 450,000 dead.

It is only by taking preventative measures that we will be able to bring it down. The measures we currently have are allowing to remain at this level. We need to up our preventative measures game.

 

Good morning, PFers,

I hope you all slept well and are all well.

HERE are the COVID-19 numbers from my report for yesterday, 2020-02-025, which stretched until 01:20 AM (my time) on 2020-04-026:

Now, here are the numbers from WORLDMETERS for their EOD, 2020-04-025, GMT +0 (which was circa 40 minutes after my report). This is the last time I will need to compare between the two, for as of tonight, the EOD report will have shifted completely from GMT +2 (my time-zone) to GMT +0. But, for the last time in this way, here we go:






In those circa 40 minutes, we went from 2,915,264 to 2,919,404 confirmed COVID-19 cases, a jump of +4,140 cases.
In the same time frame, we went from 203,020 to 203,164 total COVID-19 deaths worldwide, a jump of +144 deaths.
Among those deaths, in the USA, we went from 1,951 to 2,065 deaths, a jump of +114 deaths, or 79.2% of all worldwide deaths reported in those 40 minutes.

In the four screenshots above, which shows 107 nations plus the Diamond Princess cruise ship - hard to believe, but that is only about 50% of all countries. This time, I highlighted nothing. You can see for yourself where there is no new information in the fields to the right of a country's name. With 24 time-zones on our planet, there is no way that every nation is going to report at the same time, so this is kind of like a snowball that just keeps rolling.

Now, to this morning's numbers and a little commentary afterward:



The excel-table:



The countries-list (4 screenshots):






So, since EOD 2020-025 (my time zone), we have already added +8,392 cases, which actually, is kind of lean compared to the morning jumps last Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and yesterday - but generally, Sundays have tended to start slower. We are now 76,344 COVID-19 cases away from the 3 million mark. It's very possible that we hit that mark today and if not, most definitely tomorrow. The USA is now 39,104 cases away from the 1,000,000 mark. The highest number of US cases that I recorded was on Thursday (around +39,500), but I am not sure the USA is going to do that today. Then again, it's possible. So, what I said about the worldwide figures also applies to the US figures, which is no surprise, as the US figures are upwards of 33% of the world's figures.

I will be changing my reporting format somewhat tonight with the EOD report coming out after WORLDMETERS closes it's numbers day at 00:00 GMT +0 (20:00 EDT, 02:00 here in Germany). I am going to make it leaner and use less words!

-Stat

 

The rules of debate are straightforward and simple. If you make a claim and are asked to substantiate it you are expected to do so. Failure to do so only harms your own credibility. Most people provide the links when they make the original claim so as to not be challenged.

This is your 2nd failure to provide a link and it is COMPOUNDED by your asinine strawman allegation that is YOUR falsehood because nowhere did I state that SK "locked down".

Both of those nations have cities that are LARGER than NYC and they have used EFFECTIVE MEASURES to contain the spread of the virus. In China they did a PARTIAL lockdown and implemented the same effective measure that SK is using in the rest of the nation to keep the virus UNDER CONTROL.

Facts matter and so do the rules of debating.

Have a nice day!

 

Which resulted in a WARNING AGAINST using it by the Australian Health Authorities.

https://www.newsweek.com/australias...use-hydroxychloroquine-treat-covid-19-1497005

And this was followed by it FAILING the testing in Australia just like it has FAILED testing here in America.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...to-prove-coronavirus-recovery-claims-c-998981

 

That is the MINIMUM distance that the WHO recommends.