Transgender woman arrested for voyeurism in Target changing room

Djeezus kryse Pax - is my lil' opinion worthy of such a reaction? I was just saying that I don't think the OP's matter is any important. I was even apologizing.

That's no surprise we live in such a violent society - people just can't live with others expressing different opinions.

 

Damnit, now I'm back on the other side of the fence. Damn you and your strong argument.

 

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I reread your reply with that in mind and yes, and my sarcasm was completely uncalled for. I apologize.

 

So what bathroom should this female be allowed to used?

 

Yes, thats what I meant.


Single occupant restrooms are the way to go. I dont think anyone would complain about a common hand washing area, but the business area should be private.

You are probably preparing a response about how we shouldn't have to change everything to accommodate a few sexually confused people, but the reason for my position has little to do with the LGBT issue.

Many times I was out with my daughter when she was too young to let her go into the ladies room by herself. I have had to change diapers in crowded mens rooms.

Finally, I really don't want open space between me and the guy $hitting in the next stall. It's fine with me if you like that. I respect your opinion.

 

The one at the tattoo parlor.

 

Is that a real Female? Or a Male with a costume?


The answer will tell you which one he or she should use.

 

No your world view just mean that she will be challenge in a disrespectful manner every time she must meet the call of nature while outside her home as is always happening to women driven by those who wish to be the bathroom police to women who do not dress or look like women from 1940s movies.

 

Sorry to tell you this, but life has already made distinctions. There are Males and Females, and it's not like picking your favorite shirt or shoes...you dont get to choose one.

 

I suspect the number of victims won't matter... "the ends justify the means" to many ideologues today... they don't care who gets hurt, as long as they get what they want...

 

You are so right it's scary... We'll also see the effects tomorrow during the touted #Black LIES Matter -- "Day of Rage".

 

Tell that to a woman repeat a woman that had been drag out of a woman repeat a woman bathroom by the police as the police was not willing to take her word for her sex at the time an she dare to used a public restroom without ID.

Seem that the police and society would have better things to do.


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/cops...ng-shes-a-man/

ideo posted online on Wednesday reportedly captures a group of police officers harassing a gay woman inside a public womens’ restroom, ultimately ordering her out believing her to be a man.

According to Complex, the video showing the unidentified woman’s encounter with the officers was posted by blogger Tamara McDaniel.

“This is a girl, and you guys are harassing her because she’s a d*ke,” the person filming the encounter can be heard saying, as the footage shows a woman wearing a red shirt, scarf, and black cap being questioned by the officers.

“You’re a man?” a male officer asks.

“I’m a f*cking female,” the woman in the cap replies. “Do I have to tell you again?”

“You have ID?” the officer asks. When she says she does not, he orders her out, then pushes her toward the exit. A second officer is then heard calling her, “Sir,” causing the person filming to protest, “That is a f*cking girl.”

McDaniel alluded to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump while posting the video, writing, “Is this what ‘Make America Great Again’ means? This makes me very sad and I want no part of this irrational fear.”

The video has amassed more than 2 million views since being posted earlier this month, and can be seen below.
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Come on... Are you shilling for the Port-A-Potty industry?

 

well they are doing it AFTER work hours for most people, which is a change from when they used to have these rallies on purpose to block rush hour traffic going home and disrupt lives to get attention... but there was immense backlash, at least in my community, when this was their tactic... not only did less people support them suddenly, but society also demanded the police start arresting them for shutting down freeways during rush hour, which is when they started disrupting local events instead, and the backlash continued, and society demanded these people get arrested, in the case of my city for interrupting the high school choir from singing at a christmas tree lighting... so I guess we'll see again how they plan to act this time, they've learned to now avoid shutting down highways and interrupting events, so maybe now they'll stick to the sidewalks or get permits to march in predefined routes in the streets... basically the more this group acts, the less people support it... they are slowly eating their own...

P.S. what I am fascinated with is they keep calling for less violence and more gun control... but then they march and protest over one of the men, who was a felon with a gun! it just boggles my mind how little the logic holds up when tested or challenged, and when I've confronted people over this very issue, they just dismiss it and list off another name or generalization... and when I bring government data I've routinely posted on this website, people reject that its true, or seem to suggest that the 2% of homicides by police, are the 98% of violence in their communities... they literally want to solve the 2% and not address the 98% of the problem, because it would mean looking within, instead of pointing fingers outward... its just stunning how you can convince people of something other than the truth if you tell them it enough times...

 

this is essentially what I am having my companies implement when/if they remodel, most won't in my lifetime, but some will... I've already planned for customers and employees to use a U-shaped area with closed off rooms and a central washing bin in the open area in the middle, like a wash trough in the middle with sensors under the spouts so nobody needs touch a faucet or soap dispenser... and no entry/exit door to that area so no more germs instantly put back on hands for people who don't wash and must push open a door... handicapped rooms in the corners since they require much more space to get a wheelchair through the doors as well as grab handles etc etc... but already the architect we had designing this says it won't cost anymore than remodeling both bathrooms that took up the same space, its roughly the same amount of plumbing, roughly the same number of fixtures, but he says it will be more efficient since often one bathroom is used more than the other, this will now allow more bathrooms for all customers and employees and more rapidly and efficiently use the facilities with less waiting... its actually a benefit in the end... however like I said, this is only going to happen in places we were planning to remodel anyhow, this won't be done just to placate people, but its a plan for the future...

P.S. not a port-a-potty fan, but I do enjoy the privacy of a closed off room, my only worry, is employees will now bring reading material into the bathrooms...

P.S.S. I should also add, automatic fans and lights that run based on motion, so once you enter the lights and fan turn on, and then you slide the "occupied" lock that clearly shows on the outside which ones are occupied so its not door roulette... and once you leave, the fans stay on for a few minutes and then it all shuts off... and oddly enough, they link it all up to a central computer that tracks how many times lights and such came on and off, so you know which bathrooms need the most attention, but I don't think we'll be adding that part, I expect the bathrooms when cleaned to be fully cleaned and we aren't going to clean some extra often... but they said that also helps to know when one restroom might need more TP etc etc... I just wanted automatic fans and lights with an occupied slot notice...

 

Odd that harm of not granting equal rights to women for 50 years or so by those who used the fear of the bathroom issue to block the ERA amendment in the 60s does not count or matter in regard to harm to women.

We need however to protect women from the chance of perhaps sharing a bathroom with a transgender person a few times in her lifetime.

 

I thought this was about a changing room. The store has complete control over who goes into which changing room. Limiting it to one person at a time or any combination of persons together (for advising) makes the best strategy. This is a personal case of invading privacy. A lesbian, man or female criminal might do it and the crime would be the same.
A lot of stores have signs saying "clothing must be tried on wearing underwear." that's unenforceable and the reason is to prevent the next person that tries on the item (if not purchased) from the germs around someone else's pubis. Seeing the naughty bits is not the issue here.
You want a law forcing all existing clothes stores to build walls because a criminal might commit a crime there.
A sign saying "undress at your own risk. Someone might see you" is more practical.

 

Do you really expect this "Day of Rage" to go off in 37 cities without violence by it's participants?

 

I honestly believe, the lets call them "first shift" protesters will be peaceful and respectful and chant and wave fists without causing any destruction... its the "night shift" lets call them, that I fully expect to do what they always do after all the normal good peaceful folks go home because they know not to go out after dark or midnight... so I genuinely believe its two groups of people, those who have a genuine intent to improve life, followed by those who destroy anything because they are "bored" and claim they have nothing better to do... we've seen this repeatedly the past few decades, it really is two groups of people, and one salivates at the chance to hijack any event...

P.S. this does not mean I support the demands of the first group of protesters, but I recognize they very likely are a different caliber of person and intent...

 

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To me, being transgendered, is not the issue here. The issue is Obama forcing his edict without due process and deliberately putting women in harms way. It is logical. pragmatic and prudent to assume there will be males taking advantage of this, which he has deliberately ignored. It's also a matter of the Right to Privacy.

 

Voyeurism is nothing new and predates the Target restroom policy. There are laws already in place that penalize those who creep around restrooms and dressing rooms to take a peak at others. Posting a case of a transgender doing it while ignoring the fact that creeps have been creeping for likely thousands of years smacks of a transgender bias to me.

 

What edict did Obama force in the case of the Target restroom policy.

 

"You guys are being ridiculous. No one is going to take advantage of this whole "transgender thing"
-Liberals

 

Ha! Ya caught me!

I don’t see how anyone can argue with that. It solves problems we don’t even have yet. (Like when neo nazi, lesbian, midgets want their own bathroom!)

It is about a room where privacy should be expected.

I would never suggest forcing anything on anyone. (Except maybe the beating of whoever takes a picture of my daughter in a changing room!)The solution is there for those who wish to eliminate this as an issue for their business. Given the cost of litigation, it may be a good investment.

Making laws allowing LGBT to use whichever room they are comfortable with or laws denying them access for the comfort of others can only lead to an endless battle where the only winners will be lawyers.

 

So, who is going to pay for this? And why should they when the solution to minimizing the risk to women's safety and men's peace of mind is already tradition?