Trump: ‘Republicans will not be voting’ if 2020 fraud isn’t ‘solved’

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  1. Across the pond

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    Well it's plausible that Trump's repetitious claims of electoral fraud depressed the Georgia Senate run-off vote enough to lose the Republicans 2 senate seats.
     
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    Oh, they get it.
     
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    Well, not when it was such a big turn out for both sides.
     
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    When Trump was talking about 'fraud' for those 2 months before the runoff vote there was a lot of speculation whether that might depress Republican turnout because they'd think it was pointless to vote. And indeed, the polls shifted over those 2 months towards the dems. Correlation may not be causation, I realise, and I don't know if there's research that would give a clearer answer.
     
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    Generally speaking, the higher the turnout, be better for the left. When everyone is dissuaded for what ever reason, it favors the right.. They are just correlations just like repug admins have all the recessions. We’d be foolish to disregard either. As far as which cause each, there is little reason to care if you’re not a behaviorist just like if your not the baseball coach why you should like one player over another when the team wins. It’s an observed correlation and just considering using it, is worthwhile.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-georgia-senate-runoff/
     
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    Really ?
    One side for decades has made voter suppression an integral part of their election strategy. It’s not the Dems.
     
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    Solves a lot of problems, since Rs were the biggest voting fraud perps in 2020...

    Orange Voting Bad
     
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    Can I have your permission to use that line in the future? That's a good one!
     
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    North Carolina 9th
    Frank Artiles

    Which is 2 cases more that T**** has...
     
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    After reading your post, you are saying that Trump is full of crap when he makes statements like that. Why did he say that?

    And I agree with the last part. I don't know about Democrats, but I realized that years ago. That and the fear instilled in some that the Dems and "lefties" are out to destroy America. If you don't feel confident about your abilities, knock down your opponent. It's been used since the beginning of civilization.
    Let's get it straight, you're saying that voters should not listen to Trump?
     
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    Have you seen his rallies? Lie after lie after lie. Some really big whoppers, my all time favorite being the 600M illegals swarming the border if Hillary elected. That's the entire populations of every country south of Texas with room to throw in all Syrians and a good chunk of Canada. And he really is going full boom lies now and his fanatics eat them up. In fact, when he tells the truth and says they should get vaccinated then they boo him. They live for his crap.
    No, if he tells them not to vote in protest they won't and Republicans will get smoked 75-25 across the board.
    Fortunately, he will will deep in courts soon and maybe then the Republican party can seek out sane leadership. OK, he's not insane, he's doing all he can to get as much money as possible into his PAC fund, which will be bankruptcy proof, but from a good for America perspective he's evilly insane.
     
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    Oh..... we get it...Sure.. that argument played in 2016.... I still don't fully blame voters for incorrectly casting that vote back then.

    But it didn't in 2020, when it was determined he WAS the middle finger..... and it obviously can't going forward when it's been determined where he is sticking his middle finger...
     
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    this is large part why I've abstained from most elections
    If you don't vote, you have even less of a say in elections.

    Maybe you should go back to Putin if Democracy is your dislike.
     
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    Just one thinks Trump couldn't get anymore more below ground, he starts digging again. Once again, another statement that will bury him during the lawsuit against him.

    BTW, the most stupidest political statement, "don't vote".
     
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    I don't think you guys are thinking of the consequences if most republicans think that there is major fraud in the elections and will not vote..

    Yes you think it would be an easy victory.. but remember that "insurrection" on Jan 6th that was carried out with people taking selfies with cell phones?

    What happens in the next one when they have all those scary assault rifles that your side hates? You really think it would be in this countries best interest to push it to a civil war? a war your side will get slaughtered? Extremism needs to be rejected on either side of the isle and that includes blocking measures to keep the voting transparent and free of fraud. Even if there really is no fraud, if half the population thinks there is, and your side is fighting to block measures to make the election more secure and transparent.. thats still half the population that thinks your side is cheating, regardless if your side is or isnt.

    A real insurrection would be catastrophic for this country, more so for the left leaning side of things. Be carful what you wish for..
     
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    We are wishing Republicans listen to the Dear Glorious Leader and don't show up to vote in future elections. I fail to see how that plays out badly for Democrats...
     
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    Electoral Fraud
    Leaking voter data
    Voter fraud

    The reason people do not waste their time providing links for you is because they know the far right wing trumplican strategy which is to just keep lying even when evidence is presented, deflect, project, gaslight or just vanish so they can start lying in a new thread. It is embarrassing that someone who asserts they are informed is always so uninformed. Two of the above were national headlines.
     
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    Next time they might be met with a force that will not open the door for them. I disagree this would be “catastrophic” for the “left leaning” citizens as they will just be watching their TV in shock while the military remedy the situation.

    If half the population (50M isn’t half, more like ~15%) believe something that isn’t true without any evidence of such with numerous investigations showing them it isn’t true — then the rest of America isn’t the issue. They are.

    If by “real” insurrection you mean a successful one, a real one was already attempted, at least you are beginning to see what is in the card for the extreme right.

    If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism.
    The will reject democracy.” ― David Frum​
     
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    Bingo. And it is also why he hasn't declared whether he will run in 2024 yet. Once he does, the money he collects will be 'regulated'. Right now, its all his!
     
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    Sure don’t

    Not unless someone can come up with something more substantial than “sum bloke on da internetz fing sed it mite bee so!”
     
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    I love how these retorts are so cute, but no I'm not a Russian, I don't have any relatives in Russian, I've never read a spoken Russian word. I will not persist nor will I permit any longer, the delusions of Democratic Americans. You're going to have to smell the coffee, and join the real world with the rest of us. Rachel Maddow's fictions are fictitious. None of which was ever proven true or revealed to be true.

    It would not behoove a healthy society if half of America believes in a delusion. Whether that's Trump's Big Lie, or whether it's the Russian Lie. Both of which are matters not of disinformation, but let's call it what it is: Fiction.

    It is simply not true that the election was stolen(it wasn't) and there are no ruskies. Welcome to planet earth, enjoy your stay.
     
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    Well 2/3 of the military support right wing ideologies so be careful counting on their support if things really go south. When I say catastrophic for the left I mean the lefts policy's will be wiped out.

    When I say a "real" insurrection i mean they will use guns not cell phones. Forcing this country into a civil war should be avoided at all costs. Again if 50m well armed citizens have lost faith in the election process then the result of that would be terrible and it doesnt matter if they are 100% wrong in their belief. We are all Americans and we all need to figure out a way to coexist. So making the elections more secure and more transparent hurts this country how exactly?
     
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    I will not persist nor will I permit any longer, the delusions of Democratic Americans
    :) good luck !!!!

    Look in the mirror before calling others delusional :)
     
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    why would that do anything? if you believe that there was massive fraud then why would anyone believe a random persons opinion?
    Why not just try and make the elections more secure so that a large population of this country can have faith in the election process again?
    Whats the worst that can happen? the elections are now extra extra secure? Great sounds like a win either way and a very small price to pay vs the possibility or a real insurrection Why would anyone be opposed to that?
     
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    Ooooh! I don’t see that happening to be honest because between now and 2022 there are all those lawsuits against insurrectionists that will drop like dominoes. Not all people are stupid enough to risk years in jail because some orange toad has fragile feelings
     
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