Trump aides keep telling struggling workers to suck it up

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  1. EMTdaniel86

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    First off what does "significant trouble" mean? That is very subjective. And 2, if you miss two paychecks, I have to wonder, how much money have you put away to cover emergency as well as being able to live with in your means.
     
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    Just wait. If Venezuela implodes further there's around 30 million people that will be heading our way. Democrats could only WISH we had a wall if the flood heads north. But I'm sure Democrats would be happy to set them all up in Red states. Its not like that hasn't been what they've been doing all along. Look at where we fly illegals to. Its not Vermont or San Francisco. Its always heavily conservative areas, in order to convert the demographics for future elections. Its quite devious.
     
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    We already have walls to stop illegal immigration — they don’t work, they just deflect them to other areas.

    Even if most people are for the wall — they are not — most think this is a political stunt by trump and is not worth shutting down the government over. There is a reason mitch won’t even let the funding bills come to the floor, it’s because they don’t have the votes to stop it once it does.

    The numbers exist in both chambers to both pass and override a presidential veto.
     
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    The commerce secretary needs to have his salary suspended. He too, can go and get a loan. Dumb sh$t
     
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    Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. It’s not a federal employee problem — its an American one.

    That so many of you are willing to place these individuals and their families in financial jeopardy over an issue that wasn’t a big deal a year or two ago on the premise of caring about Americans shows just how much you actually care.
     
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    Like I told you three weeks ago,you go right on believing that!

    It's working out great for your fuhrer!
     
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    illegals aren't flooding our country. Illegal immigration is at a 20 year low. Most illegals do not cross the border illegally, but enter legally and overstay their visa.

    Trump and republicans own this shut down 100%. Trump himself said he owns it. Mitch is who actually owns it since he won't allow any bills to be voted on.
     
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    If they're in financial trouble, that is on them. They get paid just like everyone else. Their money has the same value as everyone else. How they chose to spend their money is up to them. And as such, the consequences of that spending is on them and them alone. If they go out and the piss it away on useless crap, or on things they can't afford, rather begetting and putting it away..... that is their fault and their problem. I live pay check to paychck too. And you know what, I can cover up to 5K with of emergencies that come up. How, because I put money away and don't spend it on useless shi*
     
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    ...You think that the entire population of Venezuela is just going to uproot and leave?
     
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    Republicans really showing their cards on this one.
     
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    If deflected to other areas, then we need the funding to put into place something that stops them. How hard can it be? The problem has been the lack of funding, sufficient funding over the years. Is congress so inept as to be unable to stop something like people crossing our border illegally? The reason we have not secured that border is because congress nor past presidents have actually wanted to do it.

    Once you get the border secured, or at the same time we are working to do that, go after the carrots that bring these people here. Like welfare and employers.

    If a powerful and rich nation like the US cannot control its own borders it is because of the lack of will in DC, and irresponsible voters who are living in some alternate reality.
     
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    So budgeting is a political issue now? Which party just said no to paying federal workers?
     
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    That's right.

    Laughing at how completely out to lunch inane rich fks are = class envy.

    Are you from the 70s? That's when that dumb turd was born and stupidly not aborted.

    Kind of like most trumpkins, then.
     
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    There is one party making demands before a bill to open the government can be passed. One. It's laughable how out of touch the GOP is on this issue, they're getting absolutely walloped by public opinion.
     
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    Do you have a suggestion for how to evaluate public opinion?

    The lesson you should have gleaned from 2016 is that polls are accurate, but predicting the future based on polling data is still an educated guess. Trump outperformed his polling by an average of 1% and that is well within the margin of error.
     
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    "I been talking to people who already agree with me on issues, and they agree with me on this issue!"
     
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    So you're not going to answer my question then?
     
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    The sec of commerce probably wants them to get a loan too.
     
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    Trump OWNS The Shutdown.

    McConnell (and the GOP Senate) are a disgrace to America.

    Any GOP Senator (facing a competitive Senate race in 2020) who backs Trump's position is throwing their seat out the windiw.
     
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    Not exactly. It was an exaggeration, but there wouldn't be much stopping them if it went to pure hell. Just interviewed a Venezuelan businessman, now working here, who talked for an hour afterwards explaining how dangerous socialism is and how it infected and poisoned his country.
     
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    I did answer your question about which party was holding paychecks hostage. People aren't stupid, so stop pretending like you guys can weasel your way into victory here. It isn't working, and Trump is being made to look like a fool.
     
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    Glad to hear you're watching videos that support your pre-conceived notions.
     
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    That polling in 2016 had you guys here claiming trump could not win, as well as the pundits in MSM. So, they were too stupid to recognize what you did, from the polling? Give me a break.

    Trump was not supposed to win. According to the polls. So they were useless, and that is what I take from them.

    I guess if you really wanted to evaluate public opinion, accurately, it would have to be done like the census, where all people are asked. But that would not serve politics well, even if you would get a much more accurate stat on who wants a wall and who does not. Or who is ok with millions of illegals coming in, in the future. Not like DC is gonna do what the People want, according to the Princeton Study, It seems that DC has done what the democrats want, and refuse to stop illegal immigration, as well as what the GOP wants, which is the same thing.
     
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    The Census stopped asking everyone DECADES ago.

    The Census functions by asking 10% of the population.
     
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    Cutting through backyards on my way home from school to avoid gang members, that promised to kill me and my family, was inconvenient. Government employees are also being inconvenienced. Why do they get priority over those affected by illegal immigration?
     
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