Trump clarifies 'Sweden' remark, says he was referring to Fox News report

And, if nothing particular happened
Then how are we to interpret trumps comments
Did trump lie, or did trump misunderstand the Fox News report he referenced

Lets assume that trump did not intentionally lie
Then one has to wonder how trump arrived at such a dramatic misunderstanding

I do not see any cause for reassurance in either option

 

More and more I suspect that Trump is a slave to confirmation bias where the data that fits his world view is accepted as true.

 

I guess you didnt read the article. A commitment to multiculturalism. Muslim immigration is not new to Sweden. It has been ramped up recently with refugees.

See, this all started with a political decision to take in Jewish refugees. It was a grand and welcome gesture. A large Jewish community sprung up. Then our friends the Muslims began moving in, and aggressively attacked the Jewish community, until they all but left. This non-asymilating community continued to grow, and reject the kindness shown them. There has been a recent explosion with the trouble in the ME.

 

You would not know any different, laddie - you've never been to Sweden, and you'll never be on the moon. So, it's all the fake news to you -

 

"Better educated and higher income Muslim immigrant" is an oxymoron, my friend. There's no such people coming from Iraq, Syria or Afghanistan.

 

I think there is more to it
Confirmation bias usually works via selecting only supportive data
But this case seems show a mind inventing alternative facts
And that is what concerns me

 

It concerns me as well.

 

I had watched that segment on Carlson's show and this is a very serious problem and a harbinger of what is to come here unless we get our immigration in order. I didn't hear Trump speak but saw the clip later and the first thing I though was OH that's about the show last night. Since of course there had been no announced terrorist attack. And that good he was speaking out about it as an example of what could come here.

Yet the MSM and left does not want to discuss the real issue here, the crime and immigration problems in Sweden. They want to harp on the meaningless.

 

The burden lies with you to prove that letting a group of refugees in from war torn countries without an ability to vet them will benefit the US in any way, shape, or form.

 

I wonder if the guys who run Fox News realize how much power they suddenly have?

As in they can spout whatever BS they want on their talk shows and it will come dribbling out of the idiot president's mouth the very next day, no questions asked.

 

"The New York Times said that Swedish officials had said that their statistics did not justify the kind of assertions made by Mr Horowitz, and that the country had a high number of sexual assault reports, relative to other European countries, because more victims come forward, not because there was more violence."

ROFL of yeah that debunked it all right. Here based on the actual reporting

Trump may have been unclear, but Sweden experiencing a migrant crime wave

"Police investigator Peter Springare isn’t likely to be among those mocking President Trump for his remarks about refugees in Sweden.

Trump’s comments during a Florida campaign rally on Saturday – which some took as a misstatement about a supposed terror attack – dovetail with what Springare has been seeing during a typical week in Orebro, Sweden. Five rapes, three assaults, a pair of extortions, blackmail, an attempted murder, violence against police and a robbery made up Springare’s caseload for a five-day period earlier this month, according to a Feb. 3 Facebook post he wrote. The suspects were all from Muslim-majority countries – Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia and Turkey – save for one Swedish man nabbed in a drug-related case.

“Mohammed, Mahmod, Ali, again and again,” Springare wrote of those arrested.

Springare, who was briefly investigated for possible hate crime incitement based on his post, managed to elucidate what Trump only hinted at during a Florida campaign speech – somewhat opaquely.''................

............“It seems like we may be missing the point of the story, which is there has been a massive social cost associated with the refugee policies and the immigration policies of Western Europe,” Carlson said on “Fox & Friends” on Monday morning.

He added: “Fifty years of immigration policy is coming to flower in Europe. We’re not paying any attention. We’re not drawing any of the obvious lessons from it. It's not working. That's the real point here. ”

Trump tweeted again on Monday morning, blasting media outlets that failed to report on Sweden's migrant crime epidemic.

"Give the public a break - The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!" Trump wrote.

Last month, the police chief for the southern Swedish city of Malmo issued a desperate plea for help curtailing a plague of attempted murders, beatings and rapes. About 32 percent of Malmo’s occupants are migrants, although it is not clear what role migrants play in the crime wave.

“We cannot do it on our own,” Chief Stefan Sinteus wrote in an open letter about the “upward spiral of violence.”

And Sinteus is not merely dealing with typical crimes that any modern city would witness.

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

Nationwide, the terror threat level is at “elevated” and police believe at least 300 Swedish nationals have travelled to Syria and Iraq for jihadi training. On Feb. 11, a Swedish man and a Danish man were arrested in Turkey, suspected of plotting to carry out attacks in Europe. Tofik Saleh, a 38-year-old Swedish citizen of Iraqi origin, had been training with ISIS since 2014, officials said.

On the same day Springare posted his screed, a Swedish court turned over to Belgium evidence – seized in Malmo – in connection with the 2016 Brussels terror attacks, prosecutors said.

Sweden has taken in 650,000 asylum-seekers during the past 15 years – including 163,000 in 2015 alone, The Spectator reported. Of those refugees, 35,000 were unaccompanied children – or at least claimed to be. The children – mostly males from Afghanistan and Somalia – are only identified as minors by the age the applicant gives. The only time an applicant-provided age is rejected is if it’s “obviously” untrue, though there’s no clear definition of “obviously.” The Spectator interviewed asylum-seekers who admitted to lying about their age to improve their chances of avoiding deportation.

Carlson warned this mass influx of migrants, many of whom are uneducated and jobless, has begun to alter the face – and crime rates – of countries such as Sweden.

“[The integration policy] hasn’t worked very well, at all,” Carlson said. “And it’s in the process of totally changing these ancient cultures into something different and much more volatile and much more threatening, so what are the lessons we should draw from this? That’s the conversation we should have.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...t-sweden-experiencing-migrant-crime-wave.html

So once again the MSM and left divert from the real issue here and rant about the meaningless

 

Wow. You got me. Some random policeman's facebook page rant. Really hard-hitting stuff there.

 

Trump believes in Fox fake news just like his supporters do.

 

When Leftists post Leftist news we can disprove it easily with supporting evidence.

When Leftits cry that others post "fake news" they never offer up any supporting evidence (because non exists) and when challenged they stop responding.

 

The control over the Left is through the meaningless.

Uncivilized people ...from a war torn nation ...where Islamic extremism has been unchallenged in any way for centuries ...have a violent culture that is incompatible with the Western world ...and who act per their nature when transplanted to civilization ...resulting in crime, rape, and terrorism.

Do Leftists care?

Are Leftists smart enough to follow this simple logic?

It seems the answers to both of those questions is a firm no.

They only care that "White people" are being "mean" to "Brown people".

And they are willing to sacrifice their own lives, the lives of their families, and the lives of Americans everywhere, just to uphold their feels based emotion driven ignorance.

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Please re-read the article because you missed the explanation.

 

Sweden's own government numbers from BRA show a 70%+ increase in RAPE and MURDER since 2007.



That's crazy.

 

Ah the typical belligerent militant bigoted Leftist response.

Become triggered by facts then, when faced with the inability to dispute them, proceed to launch into litany of logical fallacies and self gratifying strokes of the ego.

You're new here, so you might have thought you could pass that tirade off as legitimate discussion.

But this post, this dribble you've spewed upon us ...its nothing new.

See, you think yourself to be our intellectual superior.

You think that ...because the side that wants your votes told you it was true.

But while their instilling of that delusion within you may be enough to gaze upon a mirror and justify your own grandiosity, the rest of us see something different when we look.

When we look, we sense your anger, and we instantly recognize your inability to discuss a point without resulting to your ad hominems, your tu quoques, your false causes, and your general motive for posting; the self gratifying strokes of the ego I mentioned earlier.

When we look, and we see these things, we don't recognize a "superior intellect"...

...we recognize a brat.

 

Except its not we have accountings of the violence being committed by "refugees" and we have data showing an increase in crime due to their inundation.

You are so caught up in the identity aspect that you're refusing to allow yourself to recognize what is happening.

And your thread was about how the world sees Trump, but what about how the world sees Leftists?

How do you think the victims of radical Muslim violence around the world see you?

All the children molested by Muslims, all the women raped and mutilated by Muslims, all the gays beat and probably killed by Muslims, and all families of people killed by Muslims.

How do you think they regard the American Left and its belligerent insistence that none of these things are occurring.

I'm guessing they regard you with the same disdain and hatred as they view holocaust deniers, because that's what you are.

You're basically a holocaust denier.

 

Yea, I posted the OP.

I did it to attempt to show you Leftists the difference between an actual lie and a bit of media hysteria being erroneously called a lie.

You obviously fell for their scam.

There was no lie, there was no intent to lie, and there was an immediate clarification from the man himself.

If you want to continue to play the role of the triggered pawn then be my guest.

 

And you know those briefings do not include the migrant problems Sweden faces how?

 

"Immigrant" (read: muslim) riots last night in Sweden:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-after-trump-comments/?utm_term=.f9287940ffd7

 

So you are ignorant of the news segment to which he was referring? I saw it and it is quite telling about what is going on in Sweden and certainly NOT what we want here.

 

Friday night, on his Fox TV show, Tucker Carlson interviewed Ami Horowitz. Horowitz is a film maker who did a documentary on the "problems" in Sweden. During the broadcast, Fox showed some scenes from Horowitz's film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4dsTHN7h_U
One very short scene (@2:50) showed something aflame (actually it looked like a brush fire).

Somehow we got from this to Trump...
You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden.



It's a good thing Carlson wasn't interviewing a film maker about nuclear weapons and showing footage of the Bikini Atoll test of the 1950's.

 

He saw the report on Fox News and took it out of context.

He said it was what he saw on Fox.

 

This part may actually be true. It's not the idiot in chief sources any of his own material. As evidenced when he was called on his lie about his electoral vote margin, he replied that the info was given to him. He's a puppet being fed lies and nonsense, and he's all to happy to repeat it to his frothing legions.