Trump Fires John Bolton In Final Break After Months Of Policy Divisions

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, they granted Bush the decider the ability to decide, this was before Inspectors were allowed in and found no WMD, but decided to do to war anyways

    the inspectors were just a excuse for war, they did not think Iraq would let them in

    http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2008/06/un-inspectors-were-right-iraq-was-not.html

    "by 2002 the new Bush administration decided on war with Iraq. One of the problems they were faced with was how to justify it. In March 2002 British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s office suggested to the White House that a new round of U.N. inspectors could be the way to provoke a war. England believed that Iraq would refuse inspections and that could not only provide the legal justification for war, but also help build public support."
     
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    I never heard of that story of his wife being ganged raped.

    I knew that Nat Turner's wife wasn't a negro but a native American Indian.

    Again likely PC revisionist history that Cherry Turner was ganged rape.

    There could have been a Me Too movement back during the 1820's and 1830's ???
     
  3. FreshAir

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    trying to blame the civil war on this one man's actions is revisionist history imo
     
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    inspectors had been in Iraq since the end of the first Gulf War....kicked out at different times.

    Yes, Bush decided to go to war, then went to Congress, and they authorized it....granted Bill Clinton had already got Congress to pass and he sign the Iraq Liberation Act, making that are policy prior to the use of force.
     
  5. APACHERAT

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    Not blaming Nat Turner for the American civil war, just for prolonging slavery in America for another 32 years.

    Kinda like what they no longer teach in our schools today, it was a black man who went to the courts in Colonial America who made slavery legal in America and was the first slave owner in America.
    Anthony Johnson was his name.

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  6. FreshAir

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    no, Bush asked Congress to be the decider, bush decided to go to war, not congress, congress just gave him the ability to decide to do so
     
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    not hardly, those that supported slavery would of supported it forever, so much so they were willing to go to war with the north over it
     
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    Because in typical Trump administration behavior, Flynn brought his son in on the fun in Moscow.... or hadn't you heard that?

    You make it sound like Flynn's Boy Scout kid was put on the rack.....
     
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    Most Southern slave owners in 1860 didn't support or defend slavery.
    A minority did but the majority didn't.

    Almost all had inherited their slaves and were stuck with owning them.

    It was the Nat Turner Rebellion that led to states passing laws to making it extremely difficult to free their slaves.

    90% of the Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves and you think they would be fighting so a small minority of elitist cotton plantation owners could keep slaves ?

    I don't think so.
     
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    I think it was a lot like foreign imports and foreign outsourcing are now, only the rich owned slaves, but the people benefited from lower costs - thus most did not want it to end, but knew it was wrong
     
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    Trumps an idiot because he hired Bolton.
    also...
    Trumps an idiot because he fired Bolton.

    ...Said most Democrats:)
     
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    Which Democrats have said that Trump is an idiot for firing Bolton or are you making up things again? Trump is an idiot though for many other reasons and an embarrassment to the country but very entertaining for us not living in the US
     
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    WOW, All of this misplaced hatred for those who advocate the promotion of democracy American national interests peace through toughness and military strength and great dislike of communism radical politicians and those who are not supporters of America.
    All of us who love this country are beyond disgusted with the antics of this toddler in the nation's Oval Office.
     
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    He is behaving idiotically and hurting our country by causing instability.
     
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    Oh just great you are laughing at us as Our Dear Leader is destroying the credibility of our once great country and he is lying about making our country great.
     
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    Just admit it - you secretly love the mustache!
     
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    Yeah congress authorized it...he went to congress and they authorized the use of military force. Geez...they voted and approved it
     
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    They're horrible, hypocritical lowlifes who lie constantly and start needless wars that quickly turn into expensive disasters.
     
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    His involvement in engineering the needless and disastrous Iraq war is more than enough to relegate him to the status of an archfiend.
     
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    Hey don't hold back let your feelings out. The only needless war that I see that Neocons are guilty of is the Iraq war and yes that one was useless. Funny but I have HEARD similar descriptions of Trump and his supporters.
     
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    I asked, you answered that is good that you answered. So ok I now know where you are coming from.
     
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    Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
     
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    Since slavery was what the Civil War was about if 90% of the Confederates soldiers were not fighting for slavery then they For for nothing. The fools and suckers.
     
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    That may be true but he is an expert at not knowing what he is doing.
     
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    The Iraq war was a disaster of historical proportions. And those who engineered it deserve to be charged with a litany of war crimes.

    Every conflict neocons advocate for is useless and based on lies.
     
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