Trump had another meeting with Putin - alone

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  1. Borat

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    Yes because when cornered, you predictably can't even begin to come up with a coherent explanation of your own gibberish.
     
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    Except I already did.
     
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    You don't understand, you should have explained to us, not to your cat...

    Where did you get the silly concept of "hostile" power as it's not a legal term, why blackmail by a "neutral" power is any better and why did Obama's promise to be flexible in response to uber-hostile (legal term) Putin feeler was OK. Inquiring minds want to know and I don't mean your cat.
     
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    I did.
     
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    Your "complete" and silly post made a baseless allegation of collusion with no supporting information. Sad that I have to explain your own posts to you, isn't it?
     
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    I surmise the shouting shouldn't be about Russian meddling, but about Ukranian meddling. In collusion with the Democrats.

    Did you ever wonder why the Left makes such a big deal about Russia, when we can name about 10 countries who pose a larger threat to us? It's because Russia is nationalistic and wants to continue it's historical occupation of the Ukraine. The EU is globalist, and is fighting Russia for Ukraine. The Ukraine is the line of demarcation between globalists and nationalists.

    All of this ridiculous hoopla is generated by globalists in their fight to invade and control eastern europe. This is the left-wing Ukraine and Merkel at work.

    Proof: At Angela Merkel's dinner, WHO SEATED MELANIA NEXT to PUTIN?
    Then leaked it to the press when her husband walked over to join her.
     
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    Does the West Wing still have a designated men's room or did Obama get rid of them all.
     
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    It should be disturbing. The New York Times was once a respectable newspaper, but now it prints nothing but 'fraud news' on a daily basis. There was no second meeting, but that's not the disturbing part. What is disturbing according to the Russians is that leaders of nations always speak to one another, and here the media is trying to make any meeting with a Russian a criminal offense.

    Who in the damn world are these arrogant bastards, who see themselves as the arbitrators of who should be our enemy and who our duly elected president should or shouldn't talk to?
     
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    I really don't understand this mass neurosis where Russia is concerned. I can only think it must be the result of intensive brainwashing during childhood against the USSR and now it's ingrained into their psyche?
     
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    Jealousy, frustration, I think. If Trump had given Putin a cold shoulder he would have been pilloried for missing an historic opportunity to reduce international tensions.

    The most virulent Trump haters I know are Boomers. It makes them feel noble and heroic trashing conservatives, though it's a perfectly safe thing to do in the USA
     
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    They all have so little understanding about world affairs, and so little nous generally about real politik, I've often thought they must be not-very-smart millennials. [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, the Russians were involved in trying to subvert our presidential election because their friends of ours, and know what's best for us.

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    Trump Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer sheds new light on the extent of Russia's election interference

    • Jul. 16, 2017, 12:26 PM
    Last week's revelations that President Donald Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., met with a Russian lawyer with strong ties to the Kremlin during the campaign to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton shed new light on the extent of Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

    The first sign of Moscow's meddling came in September 2015, when the FBI first noticed that Russian hackers had infiltrated a computer system belonging to the Democratic National Committee.

    Nearly a year later, further reporting and testimony from current and former intelligence officials have painted a portrait of Russia’s election interference as a multifaceted, well-planned, and coordinated campaign aimed at undermining the backbone of American democracy: free and fair elections.

    Now, as FBI special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional intelligence committees continue to investigate Russia's election interference, evidence is emerging that the hacking and disinformation campaign waged at the direction of Russian President Vladimir Putin took at least four separate but related paths.

    The first involved establishing personal contact with Americans perceived as sympathetic to Moscow — such as former Defense Intelligence Agency chief Michael Flynn, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and early Trump foreign-policy adviser Carter Page — and using them as a means to further Russia's foreign-policy goals.

    The second involved hacking the Democratic National Committee email servers and then giving the material to WikiLeaks, which leaked the emails in batches throughout the second half of 2016.

    The third was to amplify the propaganda value of the leaked emails with a disinformation campaign waged predominantly on Facebook and Twitter, in an effort to use automated bots to spread fake news and pro-Trump agitprop.

    And the fourth was to breach US voting systems in as many as 39 states leading up to the election, in an effort to steal registration data that officials say could be used to target and manipulate voters in future elections.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/evidence-russia-meddled-in-us-election-2017-6
     
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    Timeline Of Trump And Russia In Mid-2016: A Series Of Coincidences Or Something More?
    7:01

    The video appeared on YouTube on March 4, three days after the bonanza of primaries and caucuses known as Super Tuesday. New York billionaire Donald Trump had dominated the contests, cementing his improbable rise to Republican front-runner. And a Russian man named Alexander Dugin was providing his own colorful commentary on the results, in heavily accented English.

    The message was unmistakable: Russia was officially rooting for Trump.

    On March 4, 2016, Alexander Dugin posted a video called "In Trump We Trust," endorsing Trump's candidacy and criticizing the rest of the GOP field and Hillary Clinton.

    YouTube
    "Go ahead, Mr. Trump, in Trump we Trust," Dugin said, staring into the camera.

    Dugin isn't just a random crank with a YouTube channel. He is an influential political analyst and philosopher with deep ties to the Russian government. He is known variously as "Putin's Brain" and "Putin's Rasputin," a moniker he was given by Breitbart News in 2014.

    In the video, Dugin sits behind an anchor desk, offering disdain for American democracy ("How dare they lecture us about human rights and the fight against corruption?") and neoconservative foreign policy. For Trump, there is praise of his populism and his "America First" approach to the world. For Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, then a Republican candidate for president, there are graphic insults. But Dugin reserves his harshest criticism for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic primary process.

    "There is nothing more stupid and fake than the American vote counting system," Dugin said. "The majority votes for [Bernie] Sanders but Clinton wins, bribing the electors."

    While Dugin was publicly stating his desired outcome for the 2016 election, a Russian military intelligence service was quietly taking steps that would later rock the 2016 campaign. According to the U.S. intelligence community's declassified assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Russia's GRU began rifling through the email accounts and networks of Democratic Party officials and political figures in March 2016.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/17/53732...-2016-a-series-of-coincidences-or-something-m
     
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    :roll: Do you believe everything you read in the main stream press? All mischievous speculation, or outright lies, without an iota of proof.
     
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    I think when all your intelligence agencies say they have direct knowledge that Russia set loose an operation to subvert your presidential election, you tend to figure something occurred, yes. Interesting that you would attempt to conclude that it was merely the media involved in "mischievous speculation, or outright lies".

    So, south coast of England, what is your dog in this fight?

    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within"
     
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    Yeah I agree Merkel is a Marxist demon for sure. Look how she screwed up not only Germany but all of Europe with her globalization crap taking in Syrian migrants and then telling all in the EU they must do the same thereby forcing globalization even more. And now apparently she's intent on taking in the entire African Continent as well. Those arriving now are coming from extremely poor uneducated societies that are mostly MUSLIMS who will be spreading that ideology all over Germany and Europe. Fun times ahead..welcome to the middle ages. At the very least everyone better tuck their women and girl children away because if not they won't be safe unless they live under armed guard 24/7.

    Apparently she and others are claiming it's due to shrinking population numbers because women are having less kids. How about Instead of importing migrants who follow insane Muslim ideology that will eventually destroy Germany and Europe's way of life altogether with wars and Sharia Law, they instead offer incentives to people to have more children so they can raise their own population numbers? At least that way, they won't be letting in those who will revolt at some point changing the country into something they don't even recognize anymore.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/europe/germany-refugees-merkel/index.html <---???? No limit? WTF?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ermany-enough-migrant-crisis-Europe-take-more

    http://politichicks.com/2017/03/angela-merkel-agent-of-east-german-socialist-globalism/

    The German people better vote this horrible excuse of a traitor out who is daily welcoming the enemy into the country instead of trying to keep them out.
     
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    Yeah I saw where tom444 was going and just skipped over his posts altogether regarding him as a completely biased and brainwashed believer of mainstream Fake News media.
     
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    Unless you have something more? Although Putin probably did like the idea of Trump more than Hillary it doesn't mean he was colluding with him but that he just didn't like Hillary much which pretty much the entire world shares that sentiment. And let's not forget he's had personal dealings with her and Bill over the uranium one deal and no doubt others and therefore hatred probably resulted from those encounters as well. Then there's the fact she is not only a woman but also a very narcissistic one who only wants things her way. If she became president, he'd have to deal closely with her and let's face it, no male leader would ever like to be sanctioned or have their hands slapped by a b*tch and that would go double for Putin.

    So although bad, and outside meddling in elections needs to stop, unless Trump actually did help to make that happen, what the Russians did on their own is not an impeachable offense. That said, if they were the ones responsible for turning the election around, I for one am grateful because it helped the U.S. dodge a very big HORRIBLE bullet that would have completely ruined this nation.
     
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    I see. So he supported Trump because women are bitches.

    Further, you didn't read the article anyway: "I saw where tom444 was going and just skipped over his posts"

    Good thing you aren't biased.
     
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    More fake news.
     
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    APACHERAT, I can't believe you are not incensed that the American President would hold a private meeting with Putin at a G-20 meeting. Without an American translator present, but only a Russian translator, this is sick. This crap must stop. Here is NBC's report on this traitorous meeting.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-terror-attacks/obama-putin-go-head-head-g20-sidelines-n463821

    Here is a picure of the meeting. Hope Trump is embarrassed. Ooops!
    upload_2017-7-20_11-15-38.jpeg
     
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    Guess you think the Cold War was just made up to increase spending by the Military/Industrial complex.
     
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    And you are the hen in the fox den with no where to hide.
     
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    Guess you didn't notice that it wasn't just Obama and Putin and a Russian translator. Oh well, try again
     
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    Not before the family pays a price.
     

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