Trump Impeachment Under Full Swing

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Trump Impeachment Hearing legitimate or not?

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  2. Maybe/not sure

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  1. Jacob E Mack

    Jacob E Mack Well-Known Member

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    Good point. I'm not a global warming alarmist.
     
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    someday i will either learn to type or proofread before i hit reply
     
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    Lol. I wasn't being sarcastic though.
     
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    i know i reread my own post and was embarrassed
     
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    It seems to me that there is some uncertainty about the question
    At this stage in the process they are holding hearing to DECIDE whether there is adequate evidence to present Charges to the senate for trial On those charges. Since this is the process defined in the constitution, I can see no possible argument that this is not a legitimate process.

    as I said, the senate has the responsibility of deciding the legitimacy of the charges
     
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    I ask this question in confidence because there is a politicized perspective on this question, meaning that, large numbers of people in different political camps have very different answers to the legitimacy of even having the hearings in the first place. I am most interested in those people who surprise, even though one would expect them to have a certain opinion, they think differently. I am also interested in the reasoning behind supporting the hearings or not; the thought process of why or why not this is appropriate...not just "he did not do it or did it, it's obvious!"
     
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    As I understand it, the entire point of the current hearings is to present the evidence
    .... isn’t that true? If the hearings have not happened, obviously you would not have seen the evidence
    um,,l, are you saying you did see evidence on this matter..... was there a trial or hearings that I missed?
    Where did you see evidence?
     
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    There has been no evidence of any wrongs by trump. Only Biden. The Undersecretary of state even said Biden should be elected!

    The ****ing hearings started today.

    Ignored for Derp.
     
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    Of course some people would not WANT to have hearings
    Some people may feel the charged activities are completely normal

    but I have seen no one present a valid argument that the hearings are not legitimate. They are after all proceeding exactly as specified in the constitution. How could that be illegitimate?

    Again, I am confused
    The whole point of having hearings is to publicly determine the facts
    How can impropriety be determined without this step
    Assessing impropriety is up to the senate
    Again... who and how would that determination be made?
     
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    We 100% agree as to the legitimacy and Constitutionality of the impeachment hearings.

    The determination on how subjective views on the hearings and the objective statements come into view, over time in the thread from the posters.

    No need to be confused; I am asking the question to see the various views here on politicalforum :)

    I like reading your posts.
     
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    Generally, but not exclusively.
     
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    Tragic loss. :( :(
     
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    Move along.


    Ignored
     
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    Lol
     
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    Are you moving on?
     
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    Its legitimate. Its not warranted, reasonable, honest, fair or wise, but they are following the letter of the law. Legitimate might be the best one can say about it.

    It will also be legitimate when the senate dismisses the entire thing out of hand.
     
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    The Democrats have a pretty weak case and the Republican defence is maybe slightly stronget.

    It's all based on interpretation of actions taken by people not testifying. And the intentions of other people also not testifying.

    I think it's highly unlikely that we will ever know the truth of any of it..
     
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    And it is a company in this cesspool that the DNC uses to investigate hacking of their server. Considering how Russia invaded the country shortly before is it any surprise they blamed Russia for the hack?
     
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    What about the people who think the impeachment inquiry is illegitimate? You don't seem to understand for a poll to be accurate you don't group two opposing options under a single choice.

    Generally speaking, this is a perfect example of why democratically manufactured polls on the issue of impeachment are flawed.

    #pollfail
    #ignorant
    #rigged
     
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    Many conservatives favor impeachment.
     
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    Biden presently holds no government position so impeachment is not an option in his case. If the DOJ has evidence of criminal activity committed by Joe or Hunter Biden, I support a full investigation. However this inquiry is about how Trump, Guiliani, Lev, Igor and Trump’s had appointed “Three Amigos” Sondland, Perry and Volker handled this foreign affairs issue. All of those including Trump should willingly testify under oath if they have nothing to hide. The fact that Trump is ordering those around him with first hand knowledge not to cooperate with this official congressional inquiry indicates consciousness of guilt.
     
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    Is this a joke?
     
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    William Weld, George Conway, George Will and many other real conservatives are appalled by what Trump has done. Don’t confuse Trump or his rabid supporters with real conservatives.
     
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    You sound like your conducting a CNN poll.
     

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